Racing Classes, IRC, PY, Local Handicap

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GK24 will be OK if well sailed. You will be just about the lowest handicap in the class3 fleet...

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Having never really raced before, I have not got a clue what these things mean. I'm familair with the RRS in so far as I need to know them for my job, but class rules and handicaps are a mystery to me.

Anyone care to explain?
 
phew..... in its simplest form you get a time allowance for the performance of your boat....

so the results sheet will declare an elpased time (ie how long it took you to sail the course), and a corrected time(allowing for your handicap).....

All the rating systems use very different methods to calculate the handicap, from the simplest just being historical race results regularly updated for each class, through to massively complex measurement systems.... some have age related allowances, some disallow you to remove items from the boat etc etc

When you decide where to race, you can read up on the regulations for the handicap system you are using...

One word of caution.... some systems will require you to get your boat measured, and 'certificated', which while not horrendously expensive, is a usually something like a couple of hundred quid....
 
Could I get it certificated at the samer time as having my survey done and save on cost?

How do I know what class I am likely to be in?
 
Ask at the club.... usually they will advise a measurer... can't see why you couldn't get it done at the same time....

Class will be based upon your handicap, and what type of racing you want to do.... eg some classes are 'white sails only'... others will be based largely upon performance potential of the boat....
 
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Also, if you have a popular boat (Sonata, Sigma, J80, etc) with established class rules, you'll be able to get a handicap automatically, without needing to be measured, if you can confirm that she complies with class rules.

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I presume I can get that from the class owners association?
 
The GK24 has a standard PY handicap that the club will take out of the book, IRC will require a cert, but should not be a problem as it's a well known boat.
Just contact the sailing sec at the club were you plan to race to sort out.

Brian
 
Then the chap who does the club handicaps will alter yours to take into account your supersize jenny. They will also take into acount if you have two, three or folding prop and other items.
I can assure you that there is something in the handicap system that will cover anything that you can dream up.

Brian
 
Well, in the Crouch, it will be IRC
RORC rating website here, with FAQs

There is one other well sailed GK24 but they only come out in Burnham Week in Class 6 family cruisers. They also have an average this year of about 76 (no kidding). Its called Dangerous Moonlight.

You cant easily have it measured at survey, as you have to take certain bits off it to have it weighted, and the sails you get with it may not be what you want to race with.
In a (IMHO) poor move, they derated the more exotic sail cloths, and thus you can use a wide range of expensive stuff for no penalty.
In the Crouch you will also need both a running and a reaching kite, as there is a prevailing wind that gives you a lot of dead downwind courses.
The current fee structure is added here. Work it out, its too late on a Friday for me....


FEES 2006



- All applications must be accompanied by the appropriate fee

- The following fees are exclusive of VAT. Private yacht owners are not liable for VAT, but 17.5 % must be added to fees for work requested by a Company, Organisation or Association.

- All fees are shown in Pounds Sterling.

- For fees based on the LOA, do not round up or down, simply multiply by the actual LOA (in metres).

- Payment methods accepted : Visa, MasterCard, EuroCard & Maestro (not American Express or Diners Card); Sterling cheque payable to Seahorse Rating Ltd.

- Boats holding or applying for a current SBR certificate will receive a 50% discount on fee for initial or revalidated IRC.



Key:

pm per metre LOA

ph per hour

(1) see relevant note



Certification:

New application (Excel) 8.20 pm

New application (Paper) 10.25 pm

Revalidation 7.10 pm (1)

Amended certificate 3.10 pm each

Trial certificate 3.60 pm each (2)

Re-registration 3.85 pm (3)

Expedited processing Fee x 2 (4)

Endorsement fee 25.00 (5)



Administration:

Fax or PDF service 6.00 (6)

Copy certificate of any other rated boat 10.00 each (by e-mail) (7)

Reissue of lost or damaged certificate 15.00

Replacement of IRC yearbook 5.00

Issue of RORC sail number 26.00

Issue of 2-figure RORC sail number 250.00

1st party reassessment 25.00 refundable in even of Rating Office error.

3rd party reassessment (protest) 40.00 ask the Rating Office for a protest form.



Measurement:

Measurement 31.00 ph (8)

Weighing 7.35 pm

RORC loadcell charge/carriage 26.00 regardless of distance

Inclining for SSS/STIX 22.00 pm



Notes:

(1) If yacht was last IRC rated 2001 or earlier and now has new owner, new application fee applies.

(2) The Rating Office reserves the right to limit the number and type of trial certificates issued. See website.

(3) This is the fee to re-register a current valid certificate in your name when you purchase a boat.

(4) Applications (New applications, revalidation, amendment, trial, re-registration) received less than 5 working days before certificate is required may incur an Expedited Processing Fee. Application of this fee is at the discretion of the Rating Office and owners will be advised in advance of the charge being levied.

(5) Non-returnable. Payable only on initial application for Endorsement.

(6) Certificates are sent from the Rating Office on the same day that they are issued. An advance copy may be faxed or e-mailed on request.

(7) Limits apply – see website

(8) Measurement/weighing fees do not include measurers' mileage (currently 40p/mile) or other expenses



While it is intended that the above fees will remain valid from 1 January-31 December 2006, Seahorse Rating Ltd reserves the right to alter fees at any time during the year. Amendments will be posted on our website www.rorcrating.com
 
The GK24 is favourably rated on IRC and PY you should do well up to palning conditions at which point the newer craft will take off.
 
It's not complicated. As others have said there is a PY rating already for the GK24. Most clubs will allow racing to PY handicap.

If you do want an IRC rating the rating office will accept designer measurmeents unless you want an 'endorsed' certificate. These are only required for 'serious' series racing. Most clubs will accept a non-endorsed certificate.

At Burnham week the PY is accepted for class 6 non-spinnaker racing. As Jim said the GK24 did pretty well there last year!

Go on Judders - have a go!
 
Judders - If you do get your GK24 - why don't you join others on the Forum and enter Burnham week in class 6 - non-spinnaker racing. A very gentle introduction to the sport.
 
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