Quango's charter ...

[ParaHandy]

Quango\'s charter ...

was about to complete an "independent" survey from SEERA (south East England Regional Assembly - Prescott creation) about the South East Plan and realised they want me to give the answers they want ...

apparently, this is known as an example of Hegelian Dialect. It works like this:
1. The government creates or exploits a problem then attributes blame to others
2. The populace react by asking the government for help and protection
3. The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis
4. The people surrender their rights and liberties for help and protection

What occurs at 3 is the creation of, in this case, unelected and unwanted regional assemblies ...

 

[ChrisE]

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What's a quango, is it a bit like a sunfast? I'm looking to charter something next winter and am always looking to try out a new design and I like the sound of this Hegelian Dialect, a new radar type of device?

 

[Jeremy_W]

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Wasn't Marx a left-Hegelian?

 

[ParaHandy]

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oh ... come on ... Butt Master HQ hasn't applied for a sustainability grant ... ?!

 

[AlexL]

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I tried to go online and object in the official consultation to the proposal to put 5000 houses on North Weald Airfield which is contained in the plan. Firstly you need to register, and recieve your login info which is not an instant process. Then you cannot just make a general comment like "I object to the North Weald Proposal". What you have to do is cite the exact paragraph which contains the issue to which you object and then put in your response. I'm sure some people probably think that is perfectly resonable, except the SE development plan is bloody huge and you have to read the whole thing to find the correct paragraphs!.

However Prescott can say that "consultation" has been carried out, and that nobody objected, and even if they did he can wheel out the old chestnut of the "Housing shortage" (yeah right - anyone else trying to sell a house at the moment? a shortage of houses there ain't)

Oh yes and sometime in the past few months a little planning law that states that leisure facilities (to whit, one airfield) if removed for development have to be reinstated elsewhere - has been quietly removed from the statute books. I wonder how many other little gems like that have been buried in the Fox hunting and Iraq furore?

 

[Das_Boot]

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Parahandy I have been trying to articulate the issue you raise in your first post for many years. I thought this was a concervative strategy but since Blunkett I see that labour have caught on. We only have to look at the identity card issue.
I know that at the moment a policeman wont be able to call you from accross the street and demand to see it, giving him authority over you even when you are going about your law abiding business, but it will come.
On the ID card will be your address the policeman will then enquire
What business do you have in this area sir.

 

[Sans Bateau]

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Very good point.

Make it so difficult to complain that by the time you actually get to the line where it says, and your issue is? You have probably lost the will to live!

Also, again I agree with you on housing, if there was such a shortage there would'nt be a house for sale for more than a week or so. Question is then why does HMG want all this extra housing (cheap housing)? The cynic says it is to house all the migrant workers we are opening our doors to. Extra revenue for the chancellor? Point is as long as manufacturing is dissapearing to China (etc) as fast as it is, what the hell will these people do?

 

[zefender]

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What will they do? Well, the unskilled ones will.....

Drive buses, trains. Work in hotels washing up and waiting, Office cleaners, road sweepers, hod carriers, - in fact pretty much any of the jobs that immigrants in the 50s did when we had a labour shortage.

As for the skilled ones, well they'll be boring old....

Doctors, Nurses, Accountants, Scientists, teachers etc etc.

 

[Das_Boot]

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Soldiers too. Did you see who the latest VC went to. dont believe his ancestors can be traced back too far in Uk.

 

[Gunfleet]

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5000 houses on North Weald airfield? So was it a mistake to close the tube to Ongar or what?

 

[tcm]

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err not a requirement afaik. Peculiar observation. I mean, the royal bloodline doesn't even go back 1,000 years so how "british" is anyone anyway?

 

[snowleopard]

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in book 1 of the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy that earth's objections to being demolished were invalid because the plans for the hyperspace bypass had been available at the alpha centauri planning office for 50 years and no-one had objected.

 

[Lakesailor]

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However Prescott can say that "consultation"

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Is it likely that he can say "consultation?

 

[AlexL]

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Oh so you have to be a white anglo saxon bigot to win the VC then eh?
Tosser

 

[dedwards]

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Yes there is a housing shortage. If there wasn't all the people of my age wouldn't be tearing their hair out because they have been priced out of the market.

Maybe your house isn't selling quickly because it is set at a price where only people who already own a house can afford it!