pwllheli 5.00 pmish

[Heckler]

and the pissheads are just getting back from church bay, after spending most of the afternoon having fun with their mobos and pwcs and sucking on cans (do they drink GTs?, large rib coming into harbour on the plane (harbour begins at bar) sinks down to half plane with bow about 6 ft in air, enormous wash and laddo and young girl smirking away, shout, hey 4knots speed limit, young girl, we're only doing 4 knots (yeah and pigs can fly) adult ignores all cries from us yotties who are sitting on our nice boats waiting for the rub a dub as he passes, stares resolutely ahead. whip below and get digi cam and snap him, with big white bone in his teeth. will take great pleasure in sending snaps to harbour master tomorrow with copies to county council asking are they going to pay for any damage caused by their tenants in the marina resolutely ignoring speed limits set by them selves as they scurry past.
stu

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[charles_reed]

Well done

Keep us posted as to the outcome, would you please.

I remember sitting in Abersoch on Aug Bank holiday '99 watching a police RIB shepherding the PWCs out of the swimming and mooring areas and thinking what a sensible thing they were doing.

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[Heckler]

Re: Well done

nah
wasnt a police rib, was a rib decorated with police lights and colours, usually driven by a council employee and sometimes a special constable, they also have a pwc decrated the same, but last weekend it was languishing in pwllheli outer harbour broken down and had to be towed in was last seen being sat upon by a local popsie as it swung off a line at the end of pontoon no1.
have found out more about the local byelaw, gwynnedd does have a law that states 4 knots within 50 metres of low water line, so if as we were moored off life boat station in abersoch and being passed by durbrains at 60 mph, they were breaking the law.
now all we need to do is convince our chief constable " if you break the law and speed you will be punished" and mr retired bank manager "you are a liar" to turn his attention from easy prey motorists and catch a few of said durbrains. after all according to him the law is the law!
perhaps we should orchestrate a letter writing campaign?
stu

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[tcm]

Re: Well done

yes, you should. Speed cameras only have teeth cos everyone knows they mostly work, and people get fined. You have the pic, you need the nick.

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[[3889]]

Conwy HM has just sent a letter to all berth holders about mobo behaviour, particularly about col regs and the law and safe speeds, wash etc. It will be intresting to see if this is heeded.

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[Juggler7823]

I moor on the piles at Pwllheli also and experience the same problems as Sonsy Lass. Many of the boats are not berth holders. There are several boat parks which outnumber the number of moorings and berths by possibly a factor of 3. The owners of these parked boats launch for few hours and then disappear until next weekend. They do not recieve any leaflets, nor do they see any speed limits signs until they return to the harbour. There are no signs regarding wash at all.

The HM does his best with loudhailer warnings, but he cannot be there all the time.

The problem in the harbour is mainly damage to moored boats. On the sea, the speed problem will result in more loss of life. Fortuneately, the last accident in the Cardigan Bay area (that I know of, unless you know differently) was aound 3 years ago. It was a jet ski accident at Black Rock Sands where a young woman collided with another jetski. She was a doctor who had just completed her training and was a mother of 2 young children (one on the jet ski with her but who survived). What a shocking waste of a life!





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[SteveGorst]

Re: conwy hm letter

I don't think they have so far. Many of the main culprits will not have had the letter they were still coming past us on the plane yesterday. It was a good letter though.

The paragraph about giving craft coming the opposite way plenty of room around the buoys should be something the motor guys take note of, especially when the approaching craft is under sail and the winds are gusting down off the mountains. I don't think the motorcruisers appreciate how a yacht can suddenly obtain a mind of it's own when hit by a strong gust and turn up wind, I know we can spill the wind from the sails and regain control but it would be nice to have more than a few yards to do this in.

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[timevans2000]

Just spoken to the Harbour Master to see what can be done. I know Stu has a digital camera and I do, so from know on photo of speeding boats, PWC will be going to Harbour Master. He has a database of all boats. They get 2 chances and then they are banned.

If we give this our best shot to get the info the Harbour Master nneds, word might get around to those idiots that it is not a good idea to speed.



The Harbour Master says that on the front of all the PWC is a number. If we collect the numbers ( a bit like bingo) of all speeding dangerous PWC and have photos he will not hesitate to take action against them.



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[Heckler]

pix sent

to harbour master of offending rib, lets see if anything gets done.
stu

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[vyv_cox]

Best of luck

This has been a problem at Pwllheli since well before the marina was built. In those days the racing yachts were rafted two, three or even four abreast on the piles and the wakes of fishing boats caused endless damage, keeping local repairers of toe rails and the like in business. Some of these owners were very rich and powerful and I know they did their best to prevent excessive speeds past the piles but I don't recall that any improvement ever took place.

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