putting extra turns on furling drum with sail furled?

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This year our large genoa won't furl fully in strong winds as the the sail comes in tight and we run out of line on the drum. I should have given the foil a few extra turns before hoisting sail but didnt. Can anyone advise of a method to wind extra turns onto drum without dropping sail. I have considered taking off sheets and turning sail/foil by hand but this will also turn furling drum. That would work if the line were not attached but I would like to be able to deal with the situation I have where furling line is attached and a b-gger to re -insert.
 
Taking the sheet off and turning by hand worked on mine, what makes you think it won't work? you are over thinking this.

Pete
 
SAWDOC said:
This year our large genoa won't furl fully in strong winds as the the sail comes in tight and we run out of line on the drum. I should have given the foil a few extra turns before hoisting sail but didnt. Can anyone advise of a method to wind extra turns onto drum without dropping sail. I have considered taking off sheets and turning sail/foil by hand but this will also turn furling drum. That would work if the line were not attached but I would like to be able to deal with the situation I have where furling line is attached and a b-gger to re -insert.
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Don't understand the issue with your suggested method of taking off the sheets ? Just loosen the sheets and wind another couple of turns of the furling line onto the drum, going forward to move that by hand. Then take both the sheet ends forward and pass around forestay so as to take a few turns off the sheets on the foil (iyswim). Bit of a hassle but easier then dropping the genoa imo.

Boo2
 
With sail furled as far as it will go currently...

- Untie stopper knots in the end of your sheets
- Pull them through the lead blocks and take them up to the furled sail
- Pass them round the furled sail a few times
- Re-thread through lead blocks and re-tie stopper knots.
- Bishbosh, jobsagoodun. Don't even need to take the sheets off the sail.
 
If I am reading this correct when your furling line is completely off the drum the jib is not fully furled. If this is the case just all some more turns of the furling line around the drum making sure that the direction of wrap is correct.

You do not need to remove the sheets just the furling line from the leads to he cockpit.

I assume you have an open furling drum. if not can you remove the cover to get access to the inner drum.
 
AngusMcDoon said:
With sail furled as far as it will go currently...

- Untie stopper knots in the end of your sheets
- Pull them through the lead blocks and take them up to the furled sail
- Pass them round the furled sail a few times
- Re-thread through lead blocks and re-tie stopper knots.
- Bishbosh, jobsagoodun. Don't even need to take the sheets off the sail.
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This is the method that I used - put about another 4 turns on - took a couple of minutes and is fool proof - worst that can happen is that the sheets get wet if you drop one.
 
jac said:
This is the method that I used - put about another 4 turns on - took a couple of minutes and is fool proof - worst that can happen is that the sheets get wet if you drop one.
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You need 12 turns around the drum with the sail reeled in.
 
Bit confused as to why the sheets would be involved when the problem is that the furling line won't rotate the sail enough times to fully furl it. Surely the sheets just get dragged along for the ride when you furl the genoa? Probably best to know which furler you have though before everyone piles in with advice based on rather skimpy knowledge.
 
grumpy_o_g said:
Bit confused as to why the sheets would be involved when the problem is that the furling line won't rotate the sail enough times to fully furl it. Surely the sheets just get dragged along for the ride when you furl the genoa? Probably best to know which furler you have though before everyone piles in with advice based on rather skimpy knowledge.
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??????

S.
 
nigelmercier said:
Then pull them, which will wrap more turns round the drum.
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Agree. I had to do this once only a few months ago. Strong wind caused violent flapping of the Genoa when I tried to furl it and the flapping created such tension in the sail (and we were head to wind) that it furled very tightly and we ran out of furling line. Leaving several feet of sail unfurled.
 
reeac said:
Agree. I had to do this once only a few months ago. Strong wind caused violent flapping of the Genoa when I tried to furl it and the flapping created such tension in the sail (and we were head to wind) that it furled very tightly and we ran out of furling line. Leaving several feet of sail unfurled.
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I had this last week. I normally have about 6 spare turns, now increasing to 12.
 
reeac said:
Agree. I had to do this once only a few months ago. Strong wind caused violent flapping of the Genoa when I tried to furl it and the flapping created such tension in the sail (and we were head to wind) that it furled very tightly and we ran out of furling line. Leaving several feet of sail unfurled.
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+1
It's possibly one of things most could admit to happening on their boat, a bit like going aground but not as embarrassing?

S.
 
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As most have suggested in thread the sheets and take a few extra turns around the foil, replace the the sheets job done.
You could in thread the reefing line and thread a couple of turns more around the drum obviously in the same directions as previously wound re thread the reefing line and that's it, 10 minutes at most.
Good luck Mike.
 
Pagetslady said:
As most have suggested in thread the sheets and take a few extra turns around the foil, replace the the sheets job done.
You could in thread the reefing line and thread a couple of turns more around the drum obviously in the same directions as previously wound re thread the reefing line and that's it, 10 minutes at most.
Good luck Mike.
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I did that with my last boat yet I believe some furling drums are less accessible to do this easily??

S.
 
Boo2 said:
Where does this number come from ? My boat has around 4 turns and seems fine like that.

Boo2
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12 turns does seem rather a lot when the drum is supposed to be approaching empty. Mine also has a around 4 when furled. I would be concerned that if there were 12 turns on the drum to start with then the drum would be too full when the the sail is flying and the outer coils would tend to fall off.

Richard
 
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