prout snowgoose/quest query

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looking at 35 & 37 model there seems to be 2 layout options-the common layout has a forward section to the main saloon/table area which can be a double berth, the less common layout has a bulkhead between these areas and a double berth cabin is accessed via the starboard forward hull.
what is the layout called with the seperate cabin forward of the saloon, also is this layout available for the prout quest 33cs?
 
not being a serious buyer at this point in time but just trying to sort my ideas out for he future I hesitate to be a "time waster" to a busy brokerage and I would prefer to get this info via the forum.
 
http://www.multihullworld.com/ are it seems the main brokers for multis in the UK. They often have open days encouraging people to just come and look, get an idea what multis are all about.

From my experience talking to them at boat shows they are the least stuffy brokerage about, they understand the move to a multi is often fraught with trepidation, so they allow 'time wasters' to spend their time.

I think they understand, given a little time, the 'time wasters' will be hooked and then...

They generally seem to have a fair few boats open to view at any time.

As an example, I have a multi, I was chatting to them about something else at the boat show, they invited me down at any time to look over the multis in their marina to rob ideas for the solution. They and I knew there was no intend to buy. Attitudes like that do mean they will be my first call if I ever need the service of a broker.

My advice would be to call them, tell them that a multi might be the future and my guess is a great day out without any hard sell. When you leave, you will know that a multi is your future! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

**usual disclaimers blah blah**
 
thanks chaps perhaps I should talk to multihull world - already convinced about cats, I do not think I could ever go back to rolling downwind, rolling at anchor, sailing on ear etc
 
We think cats are great and are überhappy with our Prout Event 34 that we've had for 3 months. We bought it through Multihull World's brokerage and I have to say that they were indeed excellent and spent ages with us as we looked over ten or so different boats, trying to work out what would suit us (needless to say our budget increased by 50% when we realised what we actually wanted wouldn't be as cheap as we had hoped). Anyway, they were excellent.

And as for the berth at the front, I think it's called the "Owner's Stateroom Version" or something like that. Me, I wouldn't go for that as I think you lose too much of the excellent relaxing space, but each to their own.

Went out today in a F6 and had the boat up to 9 knots with reefed sails and some greenery on the waterline. And Prouts aren't particularly fast but this was a great sail that we would have hated in a monohull, far too rolly.
 
thanks mrschellers - I think an event 34 is beyond my eventual price limit As you know prouts can you tell me about the bridgedeck clearance of the prouts and propensity for pounding. Are all the prouts about the same or are some better than others?
 
Well I'm hardly a Prout expert having only had one a few months and having only ever sailed on one other catamaran (a Gemini 105MC). All I can say, from our experience, is that although the Prout has quite a deep centre nacelle the pounding/slamming doesn't seem bad at all. We were discussing it when out on Wednesday (with 3 metre waves) - you get some occasional noise but not too much. We had quite a lot of slamming with our Bavaria 34 monohull when heading too much into the seas. Basically it doesn't seem to be a problem to us but then we've not perhaps had enough experience to really know.

This pic gives you an idea of the depth of the nacelle (always in the water):
chellers4.jpg


And again:
chellersinharbour.jpg


My conclusion from these pics is it looks worse than it is, if you know what I mean. It looks like it must cause a lot of drag/pounding but that's not apparent when you're on the boat. It's not a super-speedy boat (although we had 9 knots today in apparent winds of 25 kts) but we think it's brilliant and would certainly recommend the Prout family. I know someone else on here had a horror story they regaled me with but I think generally they're pretty safe and well-built boats although the old ones can seem a bit tired.
 
Been looking round Quest 33s myself recently.

The version with the "seperate" cabin forward is indeed definitely called the "Stateroom" version - the other type is more normally called the standard or family layout.

With the standard/family layout some have this space left to be converted back to a kingsize berth as required (but without privacy of stateroom).

All manner of tables/seating arrangements are out there in either ones that were finished DIY rather than a Prouts or were subsequently altered. It's seems rare to find one boat that is finished the same way as another. Some have "ruined" the ability to convert the extra space in a "family" version by having big shelves in the way.

Advantages of stateroom is privacy of nice berth

Disadvantages is it reduced the lounging/dining area and "closes in" the cabin space.

Both quite valid choices just depends on what you want

Seems to be a 60/40 split on the second hand market right now between family and stateroom versions. No idea if this is representative of the long term trend.

Michael has a nice diagram showing the two versions here

Quest 33 layout options
 
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Michael has a nice diagram showing the two versions here

Quest 33 layout options

[/ QUOTE ]How weird - the boat in that picture is named 'Chellers' but it isn't our Chellers as ours has different rudders, exhaust is on the other side of the Silette leg, and ours is an Event 34, not a Quest 33 anyway. We're most confused as we know our boat was Prout's demonstrator for the Event 34... did they have another boat called Chellers too?
 
Believe the guy who used to run the old Prout Owners Association (think his name was Tony Williams) had a Quest 33 called Chellers before moving up to the Event 34 that was also called Chellers. Think he had an arrangement with Prout that they could be used as demo boats.
 
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Believe the guy who used to run the old Prout Owners Association (think his name was Tony Williams) had a Quest 33 called Chellers before moving up to the Event 34 that was also called Chellers. Think he had an arrangement with Prout that they could be used as demo boats.

[/ QUOTE ]Your post gave me the impetus to get in touch and I've had a great chat with Tony Williams about our boat. Turns out he had six different Prouts, all called Chellers, and ours is the last of the six. It was great hearing all about her history and seeing photographs of her at Earls Court Boat Show in 1995.
 
We have a snowgoose with a tall rig. Keep them light and you get good performance. We averaged over 8 knots on a 60 mile sail over night from Ramsey Sound to Pwllheli. We had between 12 and 18 knots of true wind with about a metre swell. We surfed regularly hitting over 15 knots on one occasion.
The Snowgoose doesnt have brilliant bridgedeck clearence. They do slam when going to windward. We slammed to windward for 21 days crossing the Atlantic in 2005. We thought at the time that it was hell. Only when we spoke to mono sailers in the Azores did we realise that they had had similar expereince of slamming.
 
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