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a consultation on smoking restrictions for boats and ships in UK waters has been launched by the government .
the proposed restriction which also covers inland waterway crafts asks a range of issues including whether all vessels should be made smoke-free and how any provisions should be enforced.
the department of transport consultation runs untill may 11.
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www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/smokingonvessels/
thought this may interest some of you
 
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It is not proposed to extend the smoke free provisions to private vessels which are not carrying any fare paying passengers or any employed crew onboard.


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Can't see this affecting the majority on here.
Ferries, sea schools, scumsail, etc... but "normal" pleasure boaters?
 
""It is not proposed to extend the smoke free provisions to private vessels which are not carrying any fare paying passengers or any employed crew onboard.""

How ridiculous. The only way we will rid the planet of this iniquitous activity is to fully criminalise smoking.

In the case of private vessels the master of the vessel should be under an absolute duty to prevent smoking being carried out aboard. Failure to comply with this should be punished by confiscation and destruction of the vessel much the same as cars are now crushed for being driven without insurance.

An allegation by a MCA official that smoking has taken place should be legally defined as absolute proof that smoking did in fact take place and the destruction order may be given by the same MCA official.

The defence of the master not being in charge of the vessel at that time and that they did not even know the culprits were on the vessel should not be a valid defence. The master should ensure that sufficient non-smoking security personnel are employed to mount a 24 x 7 guard.

Possession of smoking materials should be punished by mimimum imprisonment terms of 6 months for each milligram of tobacco.


All IMHO of course!!
 
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In the case of private vessels the master of the vessel should be under an absolute duty to prevent smoking being carried out aboard. Failure to comply with this should be punished by confiscation and destruction of the vessel much the same as cars are now crushed for being driven without insurance.

An allegation by a MCA official that smoking has taken place should be legally defined as absolute proof that smoking did in fact take place and the destruction order may be given by the same MCA official.

[/ QUOTE ]So some scrote sneeks aboard your pride and joy, has a quick fag, dropping ash over the cockpit, stomps the butt out on the floor then calls the MCA and reports you for allowing smoking onboard. Along comes the MCA "gestapo", finds the ash and the butt and orders you pride and joy crushed. Nice one - now who on the forums has pi$$ed me off recently?
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How ridiculous. The only way we will rid the planet of this iniquitous activity is to fully criminalise smoking.


All IMHO of course!!

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Apply that wisdom to all power driven vessels, vehicles and aircraft and I will gladly give up smoking my pipe!

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All IMHO of course""

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Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be a get-out clause for foreign vessels, or for vessels transitting through UK territorial waters. Exactly how do they propose to enforce UK domestic legislation on foreign-flagged vessels? Or, for that matter on EVERY ship passing southbound through the Dover Straits?
 
I think the reason for the law change is to stop floating bars flouting a loophole in the antismoking laws.

The company I work for banned smoking in enclosed wheelhouses decades ago.Put yourself in the position of being a non smoker in a small wheelhouse with two or more others smoking .In bad weather you cant go out on deck or even open a window.

If people wish to stain the headlinings of there private yachts as well as the linings of their lungs Im sure they will still have the freedom to do so.
 
I certainly hope they do not have the "freedom" with passive smoking now proven to be a killer it seems to me quite reasonable to take action with reasonable force against the use of a deadly weapon and simply terminate the existence of the offending person.

We should ensure that a law is passed to give us all the right to defend ourselves against these people attempting to engage in mass slaughter.

Perhaps we could emulate the USA and give all of us the right to bear arms.

OK there will be increased business for a short period for florists and undertakers, and the gas supply industry, but the Chancellor can easily raise taxes against such windfall profits and then we as a nation would be better off without two offensive underclasses. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Im sure that anyone whos "existence was terminated"would think long and hard before doing it again??? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Can't see what all the fuss is about. This won't apply to recreational craft unless they are carrying paying passengers or paid crew. Seems fair enough.
 
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Can't see what all the fuss is about. This won't apply to recreational craft unless they are carrying paying passengers or paid crew. Seems fair enough.

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I wonder if you might care to put a pint where your mouth is, as it were. After all, if "they" can, as they think they might be able to, chase us for drinking then smoking is just part of the process.

BTW if you are on my boat then passive smoking may be an issue, but you have been warned in advance and thus accept the risk or don't get on board/share the cockpit. If not, you are probably too far away for it to be a problem
 
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I wonder if you might care to put a pint where your mouth is, as it were. After all, if "they" can, as they think they might be able to, chase us for drinking then smoking is just part of the process.

[/ QUOTE ]Erm, say again? I'm not usually hard or hearing when it's my round.
 
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