Proof of adress?

[DangerousPirate]

Hello, does anyone know how to get proof of adress when living aboard in a marina that doesnt officially takes in liveaboards?

Thanks

 

[Sandy]

Hello, does anyone know how to get proof of adress when living aboard in a marina that doesnt officially takes in liveaboards?

I have recently had to prove my address. Not easy, several documents and they had to be originals. The documents included a passport, a drivers licence and a recent utility bill or Community Charge bill. Good luck with that.

 

[PlanB]

Bank statement?

 

[nortada]

I have recently had to prove my address. Not easy, several documents and they had to be originals. The documents included a passport, a drivers licence and a recent utility bill or Community Charge bill. Good luck with that.

Assume you want to establish the boats location on 31/12/20

Possibly a dated photograph of the boat (newspaper or a dated bill in the picture).

I recognize it could be suggested it had been contrived so it needs to be as convincing as possible.

ps - Just realized you are in the UK so my advice is not relevant. Assume banks and HMRC must send you some mail. Does your marina bill you

 

[Seashoreman]

A paper/written receipt from your marina with your name/boat name on it?

 

[DangerousPirate]

You ask me? I ask YOU! I dont know if that would work. ?

The thing is; I dont pay utility bills or anything. All I ever pay is the mooring. I do get a receipt each month, and I am certain I could ask them to print it, but I dont know valid that would be.

I get my post and parcels delivered to the office no probs. Its not fkr that. I need the official proof of adress for various other things. Its purely bureaucratic.

Happy christmas

 

[syvictoria]

Do you have a driving licence and bank/credit card statements? If so, what address do they have on them? There's generally a fairly limited number of specific documents that fulfill proof of address requirements, certainly in terms of money laundering regs and solicitors.

Edited to add: I doubt that a mooring contact would qualify for most official purposes, otherwise 'residential rental contract' would routinely appear on the list of valid docs, and I don't recall seeing this.

 

[Seashoreman]

You ask me? I ask YOU! I dont know if that would work. ?

The thing is; I dont pay utility bills or anything. All I ever pay is the mooring. I do get a receipt each month, and I am certain I could ask them to print it, but I dont know valid that would be.

I get my post and parcels delivered to the office no probs. Its not fkr that. I need the official proof of adress for various other things. Its purely bureaucratic.

Happy christmas

If I was in your situation I would put the case that your mooring receipt is proof of your address and a utility bill.

 

[syvictoria]

Proof of identity checklist

might be helpful?

It might also be helpful to know who you're trying to prove your address to?

 

[syvictoria]

If I was in your situation I would put the case that your mooring receipt is proof of your address and a utility bill.

I would perhaps be wary about opening a can of worms! You wouldn't want to end up without both an official address and a mooring/home!

 

[V1701]

Do you have an annual contract, i.e. more than just the receipt you get for the monthly payments? I've logged in to my (online) bank account, updated the address to one of convenience and subsequently printed off a statement before now. As above it might be helpful to know what you need it for, between us somebody already will have overcome whatever hurdle you need to jump...

 

[Sandy]

ps - Just realized you are in the UK so my advice is not relevant. Assume banks and HMRC must send you some mail. Does your marina bill you

The request for proof of address had a very specific list of documents that they would accept and those had to be official or utilities. Both I and Dangerous Pirate are in the UK and I suspect that the list of acceptable documents will be the same.

 

[AndrewB]

Don't know if this would still work, but when I was marina based ( yes, a marina that officially didn't allow liveaboards) everyone refused my address - except the tax office (HMRC). Presumably because they wanted my money. Once they had accepted, I was then able to persuade most - not all - bank and insurers to accept the tax office's address for me. Later my bank then told me they would have been willing to accept my work address.

However, this was 20 years ago, and money-laundering regs are much stricter now.

Incidentally, when eventually I went to my building society for a mortgage, they refused as I didn't have a regular address, and ordered me to close my savings account with £50,000. The local manager agreed it was ironic that I wasn't allowed to buy a house on the grounds I didn't already have one, and begged me to fabricate an address. I refused, and told them to give me the money in cash!

 

[Bru]

The key point in the OP is that the marina doesn't officially allow liveaboards

Therefore, any attempt to use the marina as a permanent address is going to open a can of worms that the OP would probably prefer to remain firmly shut

So what address is the OP trying to prove?

 

[PlanB]

The following gives examples of what the government will accept;

Proof of identity checklist
How to prove and verify someone's identity

 

[Bru]

The following gives examples of what the government will accept;

Proof of identity checklist
How to prove and verify someone's identity

But proof of identity is not proof of address and its the latter the op was asking about

 

[KompetentKrew]

IMO the important questions that are being overlooked in the replies are to whom are you trying to prove your address? and for what purpose are you trying to prove it?

A bank will probably accept your marina bills as proof of address, so may the council in some circumstances.

If registering with a GP you can just tell them you're homeless / sofa surfing in the area and they are obliged to accept your application (I have some links to prove this if required - some GPs may initially refuse).

I rent a mail forwarding service which costs me about £100 a year (I think); I have given this to all my banks and now I have bank statements with that address on it, which I can use as proof of address for other things.

 

[laika]

The key point in the OP is that the marina doesn't officially allow liveaboards

+1. A marina which doesn't allow liveaboards will want your "home" address (in most of our cases, that of the friend or relative who our tax demands are sent to) that's what will appear on the receipts they give you.

There's no requirement for proof of address when registering for a g.p. but practice managers may not be interested in listening to you present a case for that and refer you to a walk-in facility for the homeless elsewhere. When faced with petty officialdom I wouldn't regard the judicious employment of photoshop or it's open source cousin gimp to produce your own proof of address as an act of moral turpitude. Don't try this for situations where proof of address is legally required and don't fake official documents obviously.

 

[syvictoria]

+1. A marina which doesn't allow liveaboards will want your "home" address (in most of our cases, that of the friend or relative who our tax demands are sent to) that's what will appear on the receipts they give you.

There's no requirement for proof of address when registering for a g.p. but practice managers may not be interested in listening to you present a case for that and refer you to a walk-in facility for the homeless elsewhere. When faced with petty officialdom I wouldn't regard the judicious employment of photoshop or it's open source cousin gimp to produce your own proof of address as an act of moral turpitude. Don't try this for situations where proof of address is legally required and don't fake official documents obviously.

And whose address do you suggest is used when you decide to falcify documents? The local post office, or some random stranger's?!

 

[laika]

And whose address do you suggest is used when you decide to falcify documents? The local post office, or some random stranger's?!

The address of the marina where the person is actually living but has nothing to "prove" it. Did you overlook the part where I cautioned against falsifying official documents or anything where such proof is legally required? Primary healthcare is one thing liveaboards need physically nearby where the relative's address where their mail goes isn't usable. There's no legal requirement for proof of address, so no need for an "official" document. Practices aren't supposed to ask for proof but in practice not having some random thing to show a receptionist with a local address can block access to the primary healthcare you're paying for in your taxes. What's you alternative in this specific situation based on personal experience?