Producing Victron Schematic drawings?

[Blue Seas]

Following on from previous threads, I'm about to commence installation of a new Victron system. My planned layout is basically a hybrid between various schematics on the Victron website but is different from all examples I can find. Anybody know if there is an app to produce my own drawing (for both planning purposes and also the owners manual) or somebody I can pay to do it for me?
Cheers.

 

[pmagowan]

I think people variously use cut and paste on PowerPoint or photoshop to achieve modified Victron schematics
Wiring Diagrams map out First Class installations - Victron Energy

 

[Baggywrinkle]

Mine were done in Photoshop cutting pieces from the schematics available on the Victron Website.

 

[lustyd]

I do mine in Visio, I made a stencil for the Victron and other components I installed by copying their pictures in and adding connection points

 

[Buck Turgidson]

I used an ap called Graphic on my Mac. It's a vector graphic package. I could copy from the victron PDFs then edit as required.

 

[Blue Seas]

Thanks all, that's very helpful. Buck, is your ap just called 'Graphic'? I can see a few with similar names.
My system is similar to Baggywrinkles albeit with no Solar.

 

[pmagowan]

Have you both got the Intergrel system?

 

[Blue Seas]

Have you both got the Intergrel system?

Sorry, can you explain please?

 

[Sandy]

I use a piece of paper a pencil and eraser.

 

[lustyd]

must take weeks to get the shading right

 

[Blue Seas]

I use a piece of paper a pencil and eraser.

Do you have a link please?

 

[pmagowan]

Sorry, can you explain please?

Baggy's schematic shoes the Integrel system for charging a 48V bank, You said yours was similar but without the solar. The system interests me.

 

[Blue Seas]

Baggy's schematic shoes the Integrel system for charging a 48V bank, You said yours was similar but without the solar. The system interests me.

Ah Ok,

No I am no not considering Lithium simply because I have 6 x Rolls 230ah in absolutely tip-top condition they are great for the bow-thruster (which is 15hp) and also a long weekend on the hook without charging (Incidentally, Sleipner (in their manual) caution against Lithium for bow thruster services).

I do not have, and it would be difficult to fit any solar.

The system that I am replacing was half Victron and half Merlin (S500) - I was happy with it but I wanted to make it simpler and more 'visible' in a schematic sense for ease of use by others - so I'm going 100% Victron apart from the Rolls batteries
i.e.
Lynx 1000A In
Lynx Shunt (with VE Bus)
Lynx Distributer x 2
Multiplus 3000 and 70A charger,
2 x Argofet
Isolation transformer
Cerbo GX
Tank senders x 4
GX70 Touch
Global Link 520
etc.etc.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

Thanks all, that's very helpful. Buck, is your ap just called 'Graphic'? I can see a few with similar names.
My system is similar to Baggywrinkles albeit with no Solar.

 

[Blue Seas]

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Thank you

 

[Nexti]

I used an ap called Graphic on my Mac. It's a vector graphic package. I could copy from the victron PDFs then edit as required.
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Hi Buck,

This looks very similar to what I'm trying to achieve, I have a couple of questions if you don't mind answering? You have 1 isolator, doesn't this bridge the Lithium battery and the starter battery? Also the smart shunt is connected to both, does this mean you are not getting isolated battery information?

Regards

Peter

 

[Buck Turgidson]

Hi Buck,

This looks very similar to what I'm trying to achieve, I have a couple of questions if you don't mind answering? You have 1 isolator, doesn't this bridge the Lithium battery and the starter battery? Also the smart shunt is connected to both, does this mean you are not getting isolated battery information?

Regards

Peter

The isolator is dual circuit. The advantage is space, the disadvantage is you can't isolate individually but I would pull a fuse if I ever needed to to that. It has emergency connect for jump starting the engine from house if ever needed.

The shunt has a second connection for voltage only from the start battery like many others. In fact I didn't use the victron shunt in the end as I already had a Pico One fitted and I prefer its display. It doesn't talk to the VRM which is the downside. I was thinking of fitting both but haven't so far.

 

[Baggywrinkle]

Baggy's schematic shoes the Integrel system for charging a 48V bank, You said yours was similar but without the solar. The system interests me.

Missed this comment, was it directed at me, @Blue Seas, or us both? I've been in discussions with Integrel, Navico, and a supplier in Germany about fitting an Integrel E-Power 9 SE ..... 48V presents some interesting issues with smaller solar arrays on boats. Would be happy to post on my experiences.

If I had the space, was able to split the engine/saildrive and move the engine forward about 10cm I would install an Integrel E-Drive which turns your powertrain into a diesel/electric hybrid capable of using the boats prop/saildrive/G-Box to generate power not just when motoring, but when sailing as well. Marina manoeuvres and short distances can be achieved under electric drive so only start the engine when it will get a good run and reach operating temperature.

Integrel E-Drive | Marine Power & Electric Hybrid Propulsion

 

[LoneHort]

use a proper diagramming software like diagrams.net ( formerly draw.io)
A chap created Victron stencils for it available here https://communityarchive.victronenergy.com/questions/7837/visio-stencils-for-victron-products.html
You can also easily import pictures and attach connection points to them