Pro Bono Publico

bobnewbury

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That should have teased any public spirited lawyers out of the woodwork.

Here’s the scenario:

An out of service date liferaft has become available to the overwintering yotties in Lagos. It has been proposed that we take it out into the bay and inflate it so that those who wish to do so can see what it’s really like to launch and, more importantly, get into a liferaft in realistic conditions.

This is likely to take place in January when the water temperature could be as low as 12 degrees C. It would be launched from a yacht and we would also have a couple of RIBs in attendance. All those potentially participating have sailed boats from at least as far as the UK and so would be reasonably experienced sailors. Mind you, most of us aren’t spring chickens either. It is expected that those taking part would be wearing some form of clothing to protect against hypothermia and/or coldwater shock (wet/dry/survival suits etc).

Discussions in the local debating chamber (South Bar) raised the issue of liability should anything go pear shaped and someone gets injured or even killed. I realise that any litigation would be subject to Portuguese law rather than British, but could anyone give some guidance as to what the position would be in the UK were this to happen? Specifically:

1) As everyone is experienced could we assume they have given informed consent and willingly accept responsibility for anything that may happen to them?

2) Given that this is organised by those taking part and not an individual, committee or company, who might be considered liable for any accidents?

3) What precautions would a court expect to be reasonably taken to minimise risks in such an undertaking?

4) Would you do it?
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"Volenti non fit injuria!!!"

Informed consent would have kept you away from liability in the cold UK, do not know the law in the sunny clime you inhabit!
 
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...would be far easier to prove if there is a written disclaimer. 'Informed consent' could be rather awkward to substantiate otherwise!
 
Based on what would happen in the uk I suspect as you all consented it would be difficult to sue one individual unless they provided a faulty raft or ran you over in their rib.

If none of you have done it before and are worried enough about a serious injury to post on here I would find a nice big swimming pool and do it there. If anyone gets into diffculty you will be able to pull them out. There will be no worries about recovering people at sea or the risk of being chopped up by an outboard.
 
I'm no lawyer, but have been involved in similar excercises. Yes I would do it - it's incredibly educational! Do make sure that everyone takes a seasickness pill at least a couple of hours beforehand regardless of whether they normally suffer - they will

I would conduct a written risk assessment and circulate this amongst participants with a request for feedback before you do it. This will include everything you think might go wrong (raft sinks, capsizes etc, hypothermia) and then the steps you will take to mitigate the risk or effects of each (eg wear lifejacket, RIBs on standby, spare liferaft available if required)

Once you've done this then you can show you've excercised due care and that everyone was party to the plan

Make sure everyone discloses any medical or physical conditions which may be material
 
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