Princess 98 From Shamrock Quay To Ship for loading.

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Nice way to spend a Saturday morning:

I arrived at late afternoon on Friday and noticed a extra large Princess berthed in the waiting aea on the visitors pontoon. After sorting stuff on my boat for later, I thought it might be an idea to go and have a nose. ( As you do)
This is what I found on the berth:
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Wow, great looking boat: Yep 98 footer or 30M to some.
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The skipper, 'Stuart' was on board was busy with two lines on the go on his mobile trying to arrange a lift to ship that evening for a little Princess 56 and a bigger lift of the Princess 98. for the morning. He was having a hard time with the load masters and dive team, but seemed to winning.

It Turned out that later on the loadmasters sent them back as they had finished for the Day! This meant a crack of dawn departure with the P56 and then a second trip round with the P98. To make things worse, Stuart, the delivery skipper was short handed and wondered if we would assist with lines and fenders on the short the delivery trip round to the ship in the morning. Welll, it would have been rude not to really.


Planning to leave at about 08:30 for the ship, I walked round to the P98 to see her looming out of the early morning watery sunshine.

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Here's one for JFM

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Looking down over:

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And back at:

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This is a fabulously large boat by any scale of comparison and certainly the largest I have been on.. Hurricane’s P67 is a great boat and bigger than most privates’ but this quite honestly dwarfed even his.



A few more views of a great illuminated name plate, the extensive Flybridge with Hot Tub in situ; entrance to saloon, the Lower Helm and of course some of behind scenes of the engine room, I didn't take any in the crews quarters but there were 3 cabins, 2 heads and utility area.



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Strangely, this boat had the smaller engine option of the twin Caterpiller 1760s' the upgrade to the bigger MTUs' is £130,000. I doubt if the owner will save fuel with these in the long runb as they wll certainly be working harder but here is a view of one of them.
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So off we went in the only nice weather of the weekend. In search of the 'Big Lift' ship on the other side of the docks. After proper briefing re. expectation of process on arrival and the allocation of correct PPE (safety wear) we set off. God those ropes are heavy when they're wet!

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This is 'Big Lift'
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While on the way round, having moved fenders for rafting and setting up lines for starboard to. We had a chance for a careful nose round the boat. Everything was very carefully wrapped to keep the furnishings and carpets clean and perfect for the new owner...

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Right so, we rafted close up on the starboard side to 'Big Lift' Very interesting there were already quite a few boats onboard and just as many out of view below decks. 2 of which looked like small work ships, 100 ft long with 3 props tucked under. To give you an idea there was the P56 from earlier, V72, P52, several other yachts.

Right, with the P98 along side the Loadmasters' take full control and responsibility. They have a deck plan worked out on a CAD system with the boats' to be loaded measured to the inch/cm. They go to great lengths to get the lifting straps under the hull and snug as possible to avoid loop drag against any tidal stream. This sounds strange but the straps are very wide in order to be strong enough but this can create so much drag that Diver Dave will have difficulty in positioning them around underwater stabilisers and locating them spot on for C of Gravity.



Here's Dave, He just jumped in with fins from the top of the deck of the ship, About 10 metres may be more!


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Right once straps are in place which was not easy above or below due to super structures etc. Here's a shot of Skipper Stuart on top of the Hard Top Bimini working the strops under and over the Nav. light system having already lower antenae.

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Quite simple really, once all the strap are in place correctly the crane operater takes up the load slowly, checking as she goes, the mother ship will start to list, ballast is then pumped laterally to keep the vessel level and more load is increased until she is clear andon her way up. as soon as she's at deck height, we had to vacate and the njustwatch as she was carefully lifted up and over on to the Big Lift deck.

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A nice little trip to do and not one that I had had the pleasure of before. With the choice of boat and the only decent weather of the weekend. It was a nice Saturday morning in Southampton Quays.

The photo were only snaps on the swmbo's phone butI think they give a good idea and record.:encouragement:


Thanks to Stuart and Dan for the invite. Dave (pictured) and I enjoyed the experience muchly and were glad to be of help.

RR


























 
another fine bit of boating yarn, and How to Do It. Thanks.

In the last pic, what is the inverted T at about 4.30 from the Bikini name pls ? Stabiliser ?
 
another fine bit of boating yarn, and How to Do It. Thanks.

In the last pic, what is the inverted T at about 4.30 from the Bikini name pls ? Stabiliser ?

Yep, you got it, they are thestabiliser wings, funny how the port one is obscured tho. Also when you think about it, you can see why the diver would have problems getting the lifting straps past them.

Btw. He only had a face mask and fins, not even a snorkel. When he went to the other port side, he swam underneath, no visibility and cold. Draft of the P98 is 1.7 metres.:eek:
 
Roger

Great post. The Snazi is gonna seem small after that! :D

So true Pete, Tiny!:nonchalance:

As discussed over the weekend...
The Targa 40 is big little boat.

The Azimut 46 is little big boat.

The P98 is a pretty big boat to us, but there's always a bigger one, so really, the P98 a little Superyacht if you get my drift? :ambivalence:

Roger.
 
Roger, if your new Snazi is the one on the EBY site, she is a gorgeous looking boat. Many congratulations. When do you take the keys?

Yep, that's the one, she looks a lot better now tho. Thanks to the EBY team. They've put a lot of time and effort in to get her back up to scratch but she's gonna be worth it. Hope to see the keys next week. Still not quite finished and the weather is a bit iffy for the next several days for a delivery trip. The hand over will be at Swanwick at their Fairline office.:cool:
 
Great story RogerRat. Thanks for taking time to post!
 
Yep, that's the one, she looks a lot better now tho. Thanks to the EBY team. They've put a lot of time and effort in to get her back up to scratch but she's gonna be worth it. Hope to see the keys next week. Still not quite finished and the weather is a bit iffy for the next several days for a delivery trip. The hand over will be at Swanwick at their Fairline office.:cool:

Good luck with that. Are you going on the delivery trip?
 
Right so, we rafted close up on the starboard side to 'Big Lift' Very interesting there were already quite a few boats onboard and just as many out of view below decks. 2 of which looked like small work ships, 100 ft long with 3 props tucked under. To give you an idea there was the P56 from earlier, V72, P52, several other yachts.

Right, with the P98 along side the Loadmasters' take full control and responsibility. They have a deck plan worked out on a CAD system with the boats' to be loaded measured to the inch/cm.

I forgot to mention this yesterday, but remembered on another thread. While all the adjustments were going on I had a chance to talk about the loading with the 'Loadmaster'.

Downloaded to his phone was a CAD drawing of all the tie down beds and dimensions and weights of all the boats being loaded. If you ever wondered why tankers and especially Container ships look so TOP heavy, there's a good reason for it!

He told me there's a common and very general misconception, "That a ship is more stable; therefore better loaded by having a low Centre Of Gravity."

Well this is not true!



When setting up the loading, involved calculations are made to distribute the weight as high as possible, but still maintaining a safety margin!!

Huh? I thought, :ambivalence: that was crazy basic 'O' level physics says stability comes from a lower centre of gravity. :sleeping:

Wrong, there is a factor known as 'GM' a general turning moment around the 'Metacentric' point. This righting lever has a value which needs to be as small as possible, which means the boat will right itself more slowly for a slower role. When I asked why, the answer was simple.

"When the boat is rolling out on the ocean, the quicker the vessel rights itself the more enertia / momentum is put into the load, and cargo starts moving, breaking anchor points and tie down straps and damage starts to be a real risk. A slow pendulum type role is far safer and more comfortable."



Look here for explanation:

ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/011/i0625e/i0625e02d.pdf



Another interesting point, well at least, it was to me, is that the loading crew don't just load the boat and wave good bye. Leaving the unload' for another dock crew at the destination, in this case, Miami. The loadmasters' will often fly over to manage the cargo as these items are of high value and the unloading order is also quite critical.
So there you go.:encouragement:

RR
 
Skipper Stuart

Must be the same guy that we know
His parents have (or maybe had) a P42 that they kept in Swanwick.

If this is the same "Stuart", he gets to deliver all the big Princesses
He was allocated to us for our delivery when we visited Guernsey (Roger, you may remember you and the other guys went off that weekend to Poole)

Stuart then gave SWMBO a bit of handling tuition and he has remained a friend ever since.
We often have a good long chat at boat shows etc.

If it is the same guy, he is a really professional guy and very highly qualified.
 
Skipper Stuart


If it is the same guy, he is a really professional guy and very highly qualified.

Hi Mike, well here's a poor shot of Stuart on deck talking to Mark one of the MDL dockmasters, just prior to leaving.
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He certainly is very qualified, all the major tickets as you'd expect to deliver these types of craft. He also instructs when available for Henry at 'Marine Matters' in the Hamble.

Roger.


Ps. Saw a piccy of my boat tonight... Looking Good! :cool:
 
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