Press Studs for covers. Stainless vs Ni-plated Brass

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Many of the press studs on our boat have decided to detach themselves from the windscreen/GRP to which the tonneau cover would normally attach. All of them have been pop-riveted to the boat, and in some cases, I think aluminium pop-rivets may have been used as a repair by previous owners (so no surprise that they are no longer attached!).

Anyway, I intend to go around and replace them all, as even the ones that are still attached are probably on borrowed time. Rather than rivet, I am intending to use screws all around - probably filling the holes with epoxy putty first before re-drilling to give them the best chance of staying put in the future. So, some questions:

1. Is it worth using stainless press studs over nickel plated brass? I've read that they're often nickel plated brass, even for outdoor marine applications - this just seems odd, as even a small amount of corrosion will seriously affect the function of these things, or do I have this wrong?

2. The windscreen is aluminium, if stainless press stud male parts are used (with stainless fasteners), is that OK? Or will it eventually corrode away the windscreen frame? (I can understand alu fasteners in a SS frame is not a good idea, but imagine the other way around would be have minimal problems?)

3. If I do end up using up ni-brass male stud parts (as I already have loads of them left over from something else), then would it be OK to use stainless female parts on the canvas cover? It's just that a couple of repairs I have made (using the nickel plated brass female parts) have shown signs of distorting a bit due to the malleability of the brass - I expect stainless would help with this.

4. Whatever I end up using, is it worth lubricating these things with anything when in normal service to prevent them stiffening up and subsequently putting excessive loading on the fastenings when they are popped off? Would applying a smear of grease of some type (which type?) promote the 'caking-up' of salt crystals, and begin to jam up the press studs' springs?

I really want this to be a 'do it once and do it right' job, as I'm fed up with these things pulling off whenever we remove the cover, so any advise is greatly appreciated!
 
All stainless poppers exist .We use stainless ones with stainless rivets with Tefgel or dura lac in ally screens.
Stainless ones are a lot harder to rivet properly in the cover so you need the right tool.
Riveting poppers correctly is a game in itself as the rivet nozzle has to pull firmly into the recess.If they are not secure on the frame ,the rivet breaks and there is a space at the back for corrosion to occur.
You may have more success drilling and tapping the ally frame and using the tef gel or dura lac as the isolator .
As the the fittings themselves a wipe with Mac Lube ,means the springs will release easily.
Cindy
 
What type of boat do you have as you can get clip on windscreen snap fasteners.
The majority of snap fasteners are brass nickel plated, some are 304 stainless, very few are 316 stainless.
DOT brand snap fasteners are very good.

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Those are lift the dot fasteners.
The punch is simply to cut a small hole with four slits around it to make it easier to insert the lift the dot socket into the canopy.
The four prongs then insert through the canopy and through the backing plate where you then bend the prongs in place against the plate
 
Stainless studs are available with an integral self tapping thread.

After setting one stainless popper in a new cover with a home made tool based on a small G clamp, slowly, fiddly albeit successfully, I bought a proper tool from the US which made setting the rest correctly MUCH easier and quicker ( even after the shipping, import duty VAT etc, it was less than half the price in Europe; stiill the wrong side of £100 though).
 
Yes that would be the Snap n press tool. Great machines. Used by the pros.
I always have a few dozen, I offer them for hire also as it can be expensive for the guy wanting to just fasten a few snaps.

As you said, the right tools make light work of fitting them
 
Yes that would be the Snap n press tool. Great machines. Used by the pros.
I always have a few dozen, I offer them for hire also as it can be expensive for the guy wanting to just fasten a few snaps.

As you said, the right tools make light work of fitting them

Yes, that's the one I have. It seems a shame it's languishing in a box, but I don't want to risk selling it in case I need it again !
 
Did you get the eyelet dies with it as you can also secure eyelets as well as snaps.

I would keep it if I was you. The turnbutton and lift the dot tools used to be mass produced and now they are like hens teeth. A lot of hammer type anvils but the plier type cutters are rare and very expensive.
 
Did you get the eyelet dies with it as you can also secure eyelets as well as snaps.

I would keep it if I was you. The turnbutton and lift the dot tools used to be mass produced and now they are like hens teeth. A lot of hammer type anvils but the plier type cutters are rare and very expensive.

I just checked. Yes, it has the eyelet dies as well.
 
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