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snowleopard
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
i once sailed with a skipper like that. so did lots of others.
nobody went twice.
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i once sailed with a skipper like that. so did lots of others.
nobody went twice.
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charon
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
Nobody accepted pay either. It was only 25 lashes a day.
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Nobody accepted pay either. It was only 25 lashes a day.
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dralex
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
Perhaps this guy should get a Mini Transat boat and then he can have all the oranges to himself. A lot of the points make sense, but why be arsy about it- it's just general courtesy to share brews etc. Sounds like he was looking for things to pick on.
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Perhaps this guy should get a Mini Transat boat and then he can have all the oranges to himself. A lot of the points make sense, but why be arsy about it- it's just general courtesy to share brews etc. Sounds like he was looking for things to pick on.
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Talbot
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
Whilst I acknowledge that the list may well have been made by a later day Bligh, there is also an equal chance that it is a man who has seen his life's dream ruined by selfish antics of a crew who in the old days would have been forced to walk the plank!
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Whilst I acknowledge that the list may well have been made by a later day Bligh, there is also an equal chance that it is a man who has seen his life's dream ruined by selfish antics of a crew who in the old days would have been forced to walk the plank!
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Becky
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
To be fair to this Skipper, it is just these seemingly little things from people who are not quite the perfect match with the rest of the crew, that can ruin a good sailing holiday. It may seem nit-picky, but just imagine sailing with someone who is consistently inconsiderate, and is not seen by the others to pull his weight. In a small space, where every one needs to be able to totally rely on everyone else, the stresses build up to explosion point rapidly. So, don't be too smug about these comments, they could have been generated by what developed into nasty experience. And to be honest, I have been in such a situation, and it ruined an otherwise excellent Greek cruise. Ended up with my children refusing to speak to the individual.
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To be fair to this Skipper, it is just these seemingly little things from people who are not quite the perfect match with the rest of the crew, that can ruin a good sailing holiday. It may seem nit-picky, but just imagine sailing with someone who is consistently inconsiderate, and is not seen by the others to pull his weight. In a small space, where every one needs to be able to totally rely on everyone else, the stresses build up to explosion point rapidly. So, don't be too smug about these comments, they could have been generated by what developed into nasty experience. And to be honest, I have been in such a situation, and it ruined an otherwise excellent Greek cruise. Ended up with my children refusing to speak to the individual.
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ParaHandy
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walk the plank, ye bastid .. !!
wonder if that's the derivation of "plonker" ....
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wonder if that's the derivation of "plonker" ....
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dralex
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
That is my point ie I was also defending the skipper by saying it's common courtesy to expect people to share tasks when sailing. It sounds like there were very different expectations of the journey and the point to make is that people should clarify expectations before the start of anything like this. It's taking a huge risk asking someone you don't know to share your boat for a few weeks. Even good friends can come unstuck. These things do however go two ways and a lot of people would rather fume quietly and let things get out of proportion, rather than just confronting issues while they are still minor.
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That is my point ie I was also defending the skipper by saying it's common courtesy to expect people to share tasks when sailing. It sounds like there were very different expectations of the journey and the point to make is that people should clarify expectations before the start of anything like this. It's taking a huge risk asking someone you don't know to share your boat for a few weeks. Even good friends can come unstuck. These things do however go two ways and a lot of people would rather fume quietly and let things get out of proportion, rather than just confronting issues while they are still minor.
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jimi
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Re: walk the plank, ye bastid .. !!
Possibly wee planker may have been concatenated over the years .. or indeed kerplonker abbreviated ...
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Possibly wee planker may have been concatenated over the years .. or indeed kerplonker abbreviated ...
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Twister_Ken
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Things he forgot
I think he missed out one or two points:
Come aboard with a stinking cold or other communicable disease. This gives the rest of the crew the opportunity to build up their immune systems before reaching the Caribbean.
Always be seasick to windward, there is much less chance of falling overboard
Establish your credentials by prefacing any remark with "When I was on Mistress Quickly..."
Pick your favourite ditty, and whistle it tunelessly whenever the opportunity arises to keep up the crew's good spirits
Sniffing, clearing your throat, then spitting the result overboard is a regarded as good luck on a oceanic voyage, and should be performed as often as possible.
Only fart below decks - letting those greenhouses gases free in the open is irresponsible.
The cook appreciates constructive criticism, so be free with your advice
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I think he missed out one or two points:
Come aboard with a stinking cold or other communicable disease. This gives the rest of the crew the opportunity to build up their immune systems before reaching the Caribbean.
Always be seasick to windward, there is much less chance of falling overboard
Establish your credentials by prefacing any remark with "When I was on Mistress Quickly..."
Pick your favourite ditty, and whistle it tunelessly whenever the opportunity arises to keep up the crew's good spirits
Sniffing, clearing your throat, then spitting the result overboard is a regarded as good luck on a oceanic voyage, and should be performed as often as possible.
Only fart below decks - letting those greenhouses gases free in the open is irresponsible.
The cook appreciates constructive criticism, so be free with your advice
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ParaHandy
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Re: just one more thing missed ...
When delegated the task of breakfast provisioning, bring three or more fray bentos meat pies ....
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When delegated the task of breakfast provisioning, bring three or more fray bentos meat pies ....
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jimi
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Re: just one more thing missed ...
Actually I feel that a voyage of this nature would be incomplete without a towed water generator providing the crew the opportunity to test and discuss the merits thereof!
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Actually I feel that a voyage of this nature would be incomplete without a towed water generator providing the crew the opportunity to test and discuss the merits thereof!
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dralex
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Re: Things he forgot
It sounds like people have had some really bad experiences with some disgusting oiks pretending to be crew. Is it always like this or is it just poor choice of crew?? Are there really so many Jeckyll and Hyde characters out there who seduce you with their charms on shore then turn into psychos when on the boat?
Perhaps all crew should be psychometrically tested before any voyage. Perhaps the skipper should be tested to make sure there is a basic level of tolerance. Makes sense to actually go sailing together for a few days first, or is that too sensible.
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It sounds like people have had some really bad experiences with some disgusting oiks pretending to be crew. Is it always like this or is it just poor choice of crew?? Are there really so many Jeckyll and Hyde characters out there who seduce you with their charms on shore then turn into psychos when on the boat?
Perhaps all crew should be psychometrically tested before any voyage. Perhaps the skipper should be tested to make sure there is a basic level of tolerance. Makes sense to actually go sailing together for a few days first, or is that too sensible.
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Twister_Ken
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Don\'t be daft
FB are there for the slap-up supper.
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FB are there for the slap-up supper.
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boatless
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Re: Things he forgot
I'm not quite sure that you understand irony?
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I'm not quite sure that you understand irony?
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jimi
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Re: Don\'t be daft
.. do'nt have slappers for supper ...
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.. do'nt have slappers for supper ...
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ParaHandy
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Re: Don\'t be daft
and another thing ... occupy the prime berth even though that is the skippers saying "this looks comfortable enough" and remain there until in sight of land/destination/sound of whisky being opened .......
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and another thing ... occupy the prime berth even though that is the skippers saying "this looks comfortable enough" and remain there until in sight of land/destination/sound of whisky being opened .......
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ROCKETSHIP_11
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Re: Crewing Reminders for ARC
I Would suspect Mr & Mrs crew paid this skipper a substantial wedge for this experience and were of the mistaken opinion that this was a "cruise" as in cruise ship, Maybe Mr skipper was not clear to his crew as to what was expected of them some people have to be told you know, When I first started sailing I crewed on a local racing boat and the skipper used get so flustered in a crisis he would lose the power of speech and reason shouting at a newbie to " pull the thingie quickly " he had no patience or teaching ability, now ten years later he is still scratching around for crew for the obvious reasons !!
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I Would suspect Mr & Mrs crew paid this skipper a substantial wedge for this experience and were of the mistaken opinion that this was a "cruise" as in cruise ship, Maybe Mr skipper was not clear to his crew as to what was expected of them some people have to be told you know, When I first started sailing I crewed on a local racing boat and the skipper used get so flustered in a crisis he would lose the power of speech and reason shouting at a newbie to " pull the thingie quickly " he had no patience or teaching ability, now ten years later he is still scratching around for crew for the obvious reasons !!
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dralex
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Re: Things he forgot
Yes I do- I've sailed through the Irony race many times- only ever bad in South Easterlys.
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Yes I do- I've sailed through the Irony race many times- only ever bad in South Easterlys.
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