Possibly looking to trade my Bayliner 192 (2007) for a Maxum 2500SCR

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This boat is a 2001 model, deisel and done under 100hours.


What are peaople thoughts about this ?

Are the maxum boats better qaulity & Performance than what I have ?

Chris
 
Maxum and Bayliner are owned by the same company - Brunswick in the US (who also own SeaRay, Bostson Whaler and Sealine among others). This means that as a company they have immense buying power so alot of the standard fittings are the same across the Brunswick ranges, especially those built on home soil.

Maxum historically have had a better reputation than Bayliner, but in reality since Brunswick have owned more brands their lower end models from Bayliner nad Maxum have improved immensly. The fit out of the Maxums is slightly more glamerous, more high gloss wood and corian finishes, but beneath the skin they are on a par with Bayliner, or Bayliner are on a par with them depending on your view point.

Maxum build decent boats, and boats built since 2000 are better than the mid 90's boats by some margin. Designs were improved as were production techiniques. The overall look of the boats a curvier compared to the boxy esigns of the 90's (this goes for Bayliner and Maxum).

Performance wise, you are still looking at a boat built primarily for the American market. This means lakes and sheltered coast lines around Florida so you are still looking at a fairly flat deadrise for the V and a wide beam. It will be fine in most decent weather, but go out in a medium to step chop or worse and it will start to slam and feel uncomfortable - but the extra weight over your current 19' boat will give you a better, more solid feel allowing you to take a bit more weather.

It is just a case of knowing and understanding the boats limitations. Provided you do, a 2500SCR will be a good step up from your 192.

Forgot to say, Diesel is rare and while it does make it more desireble, check who did the installation as it is unlikely to have been the factory. Probably the UK importer, but check it has been done properly.
 
Thanks for this - I just called to double check and it turns out to be a petrol - they advertised it wrong

Next question is I take it this will swallow the fuel more ?


Chris
 
At 25' the benefits of a diesel boat become a lot more marginal, if any real benefit at all. It is still a small boat to do weeks away at a time on, so most will tend to use boats like the 2500SCR as day boats or the occasional overnighter. With this in mind, the ability to cruise long distances really isn't there so the aded efficiency of the diesel motor will not be well used. Sure, it is nice to think you are going 40% further, but on a small boat there is a long payback time over the cost of the diesel boat vs petrol - this will be even longer after Nov 2008 when Diesel and Petrol will be about the same price.

If you can easily get petrol where you are on the water, then for this size boat it really isn;t a bad option. If you find you use the boat more, you may want to trade up again in a few years and the petrol boats are more common so not an issue. Diesel will be more £££, so it is doubtful if you will see the benefit. If I was buying now, I would save some cash and go for the petrol boat at that size.

JHope this helps
 
I had an offer to part exchange my boat with one of these a year ago, it was a 2002 build model with refitted engine
and I must admit after a short inspection it looked well put togather
I follow on Jez comments they are better build then BL and recent models are always better made

BTW Brunswick now also owns Hatteras and that is no joke for construction standards
 
I agree with the others that Bayliner and Maxum are both decent boats. Among US brands the next step up would be a Four Winns, Monterey, or Regal. IMHO that step up is well worth the cost, if your budget can stretch that far.

Kelly Cook
 
Good point re the petrol availability, sounds obvious but make sure you can buy the stuff where you are/go.
I didn't on the last boat! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
We have owned one for the last year, based out of Poole. Average fuel cost so far has been around £20/hour.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

Paul
 
I am thinking about buying a new 192 next summer and have been doing a bit of research, how do you find yours? did you go for the 3.0 or 4.3?
Any pointers good or bad would be great.
Thanks
 
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