Poole Harbour, inconsiderate boaters

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I have given up and sold my sailing yacht. Having moved last year from Portsmouth harbour, I cannot beleive how people behave in Poole, We continuously get motor boats of considerable value, passing with in 20 metres of us creating huge wake, one incident really rolled us at dusk and we were the only two boats out. Why cant these people give more space and slow down. Yes, its a 10knts limit butwhat about the creating wash rule. Has anyone else felt the same? I have seen no policing at all yet much higher cost than Portsmouth. So, yet again the bullies rule.
 
Often Motor boats create more wash at lower speeds than they do if they are planing. 30ft plus boats can create a huge wash at 10 knots or less. It is inconsiderate if they pass too close to a sailing vessel, it is also inconsiderate when a sailing vessel leaves no room for a motor vessel by constant tacking in front of the motor vessel.
 
if you are anchored up in the quiet areas then you should be able to expect minimal wash - if you are moored next to the main channel then you are going to get significant wash from comercial and leisure boats.

Many people who are based on these moorings move into the quiet anchorages if staying overnight.
 
I don't condone this behaviour. I always give consideration to others with regards to my wake wither they are sailing or motoring. Personally I find it the smaller inexperienced craft which are more annoying, they dont seem to realise the wake they create at "just off the plane" speed
 
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Kidder, haven't you sussed how raggies actually get along yet? It's about time you learned to sail for then you might appreciate their difficulties - you being only one of them.

And read my Profile before you blast off.
 
I hope you have not given up because of this.

I don’t condone this sort of behaviour, but there are irritations for all of us. As a relatively new mobo owner I was surprised to find yachts take no notice of staying to starboard in a channel (under power) I have been coming into Chichester and had almost a wall of yachts coming towards me. Each one trying to pass the other at snails pace, leaving very little room to weave your way in.

At Gosport they pop out of marinas into the harbour just in front of you and then don’t go anywhere, its not like we have breaks, I have had to come to a complete stop using reverse on two occasion because of this. I would have thought if the channel is busy they should circle and enter when there is more space.

So there are things that get to us all but what you can do? Hopefully some will read your post and think about their actions in future.

Try mooring on the visitor berth at Brighton, the fishing boats knock you out of your bunk all night, obviously hate pleasure boats and think the 5 kts does not apply to them.
 
Did you consider radioing the HM? Or popping in to see them first opportunity to report the occurrance?

I would have. If The HM hadn't acted on it ( a "friendly" chat with Mobo-er") then other courses of "action" would have followed. I do not necessarily mean going to law.

I'm sorry that you've felt so badly about it that you've sold your boat. You've let the B**t**ds win.
 
Done loads of sailing, so I DO understand the problems that sail boaters have. I do think that many sailboaters just use the "Power gives way to sail" rule to tack and turn just when they feel like it! Many sail boat owners do not understand that when there are 30 sail boats out in front of a powerboat all tacking around that the powerboat has to go somewhere.
I understand the problems of both sides of the argument. I have to say that many power boat owners don't understand when a yacht needs to tack or even which way it must tack.
 
The basic problem is congestion, yet people still head for a small part of the south coast and dont really consider other options.

It doesnt help that people bring their road behaviour and impatience onto the water . Boats tacking in front of you - smile serenly and wait until the way is clear. You're only out there for pleasure, you dont have to get somewhere for a meeting. Hang loose man!
 
Being based in Poole I have a lot of inconsiderate behaviour form both sides. I would say though that most of us get on. I often tie up with friends who have motor boats. Poole can be very busy which must exacerbate the problem - I now try to avoid weekends if I can.
 
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I have given up and sold my sailing yacht.

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Seems a strange first post on a boating forum.

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All the classic signs of a troll which would be a shame on this forum.
 
More someone who simply wants to get something of their chest.

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I have seen no policing at all yet much higher cost than Portsmouth

[/ QUOTE ] would tend to suggest thay don't actually use thier boat in the main harbour between 0930 and 1830h as the 'policing' is much in evidence.

However they do not police wash in the main channels of the harbour - although I have seen a craft stopped for passing unnecessarily close to a small dingy whilst making a wake.

They do stop and chat to craft in the quiet zones but I understand that they onlyu have statuatory powers over the main limit of 10 knots other than in Hole Bay where the 6 is enforcable.

I have huge sympathy for all harbour users from wash and spend most of my time saving fuel and running at 6 knots through the water. On the v rare occassions that I have some time element (tidal window as an example) in the equation I will run at 10 watching out for tenders and keeping as clear from other craft as possible - I can remember 3 of these this year and on 2 of them it was blowing 5 or more with rain at the time!
 
Inconsideration is sadly a factor of daily life - not merely boaters, but pedestrians, cyclists, bus passengers, car drivers etc, etc, etc, there is no easy answer to this seemingly growing problem.
Patience and tollerence is something we- thats the collective mobo, raggie, paddle etc water users, have to demonstrate on a daily basis out on the water. Congestion is a problem in some areas but then if everyone could follow, or at least have a grasp of collission regs then the water would be a safer place for all.
On Saturday I witnessed a close shave when a dinghy tacked right accross the front of a 35 ft yacht under power..... the commendable lightning quick response from the yacht averted disaster but there was still a side on collision. The yacht did a 360 but the skipper was clearly shaken by the event ...... the dinghy did a strange unidentifiable one finger sign ! humm ??? Later in the day I was then presented with a motor sailor approaching head on on the wrong side of the channel ! skipper happily chatting away in his cabin oblivious to the fact that he was on collision course, leaving me no option to take last minute avoiding action - he never even saw me !

Reasuringly the majority of us ARE responsible and take our sport/hobby/job seriously respecting others, sadly the positives are rarely posted. It is the actions of a few that tend to spoil it for others.
Perhaps we should encourage a balanced veiw and have more positive postings on the courtiousness experienced from others on the water??.
 
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