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Please help a student gather research
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Rigger Mortice
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Just post your survey and see what happens. If it's well thought through, you'll get a positive and constructive response.
RichardS
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Csail
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I can't see anyway but a traditional mooring.
BrendanS
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We have students on here quite frequently asking for help, and help is freely given.
However, many surveys and polls are quite often badly designed, and show little understanding of the issues and requirements of real life sailors. So, if you want really constructive help, you might want as a first pass, to ask for help designing your survey, and show the sorts of questions you are planning on asking etc.
Boathook
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Not to sure on the survey questions but my answers are Free, Danforth, Sheltered and Shallow.
The other posts have also given good advice.
The other posts have also given good advice.
Billjratt
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Possibly this should be on an inland US mobo forum?
Never seen anything like it on West Coast (Scotland) or Med.
Doesn't seem to be a student thesis.
I'm out.
Never seen anything like it on West Coast (Scotland) or Med.
Doesn't seem to be a student thesis.
I'm out.
Ex-SolentBoy
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Well, I watched the video. It's a suggested improvement to a type of mooring buoy and the strop that goes with it.
The problem is that I have never seen this type of buoy, so cannot comment on whether the suggested enhancement is good, or will have a market.
I have only sailed in Europe, Egypt, the Caribbean, South Africa and Hawaii, so perhaps there are lots of these things elsewhere. Seems like a stupid system and if they really are loads of them then surely they do need replacing.
The problem is that I have never seen this type of buoy, so cannot comment on whether the suggested enhancement is good, or will have a market.
I have only sailed in Europe, Egypt, the Caribbean, South Africa and Hawaii, so perhaps there are lots of these things elsewhere. Seems like a stupid system and if they really are loads of them then surely they do need replacing.
prv
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I decided to try to fill in the survey in good faith, but gave up because it is based on an incorrect premise. It assumes that everyone uses the type of daft mooring arrangement shown in the video, with no pickup buoy and without using a boathook.
Wrong forum to ask the question.
In case the OP isn't familiar with the type of mooring used outside his particular lake - take your pennant and put a small foam or plastic float on the end of it. Don't fasten it to the top of the "mooring ball", let it float in the water alongside. Carry a boathook on board to pick it up with. Have a loop in the end of the pennant which you can drop over a foredeck cleat or bollard. Job done, no need for fancy gadgets.
Pete
Wrong forum to ask the question.
In case the OP isn't familiar with the type of mooring used outside his particular lake - take your pennant and put a small foam or plastic float on the end of it. Don't fasten it to the top of the "mooring ball", let it float in the water alongside. Carry a boathook on board to pick it up with. Have a loop in the end of the pennant which you can drop over a foredeck cleat or bollard. Job done, no need for fancy gadgets.
Pete
Billjratt
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So far, it seems we're all in agreement.
So where on Earth did the five stars come from?????????????????????????????????????????
So where on Earth did the five stars come from?????????????????????????????????????????
Rigger Mortice
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The video is quite well produced so I tried to fill in the questionaire but, as PRV says, it's based on a premise which really doesn't apply to most of us. Nevertheless, I persevered with the questionaire but there were some questions which I really couldn't answer and there was no provision for a "no comment". I got to the end, tried to submit it and it told me that I was required to answer the unanswered questions.....so I pulled out.
Pity really. I've often thought that it must be possible to make a practical system with a kind of "pick-up danbouy" rather than just a pick up buoy. It would do away with the need for a boathook.....just lean out to grab hold of a handle which is 4 or 5 feet above the water.
The idea is sound. The execution is not.
Pity really. I've often thought that it must be possible to make a practical system with a kind of "pick-up danbouy" rather than just a pick up buoy. It would do away with the need for a boathook.....just lean out to grab hold of a handle which is 4 or 5 feet above the water.
The idea is sound. The execution is not.
Stork_III
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This is not a student with an idea. It is an established US company selling a product.
Laura Nineham
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Hi everyone,
We've had complaints that this is a commercial posting.
I've spoken with the OP who has explained that he is a MBA student seeking feedback on a class project.
I trust that he is being honest, so I'm going to leave the post up. If anyone has evidence to suggest otherwise, I'd be happy to revise the decision.
Thanks,
Laura
We've had complaints that this is a commercial posting.
I've spoken with the OP who has explained that he is a MBA student seeking feedback on a class project.
I trust that he is being honest, so I'm going to leave the post up. If anyone has evidence to suggest otherwise, I'd be happy to revise the decision.
Thanks,
Laura
Boathook
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Never seen any boats moor that way in the UK, but I do now know what the 'eye' is possibly for on the bow of a lot of the smaller motor boats.
Looking at other comments I won't bother with the survey.
Looking at other comments I won't bother with the survey.
Rigger Mortice
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Laura,
StorkIII is right. It's an attempt to get some research done by these people http://www.ezcleat.com/. They may have farmed out a project to an MBA student but, whatever the case, it's got a clear commercial background to it.
Personally, I think that the OP should have been more open about it from the start but I rather doubt that they'll get much feedback from here.
It may be fun to leave it on the site so that they can get some feedback that they hadn't really wanted!
Your call though.
rob2
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The eye on the bow of a boat is intended for attaching the winch wire of its trailer. To use it for mooring is dangerous as access entails leaning over the bows and the ring is usually too small to form a decent attachment. Using a carabiner or such will be inadequate and would break away in inclement weather. I can't see any benefit for such a system for sea-going vessels, only small inland boats in good conditions.
The other poster's desire for a pick-up danbuoy is easy as a home-made version with an attachment ring on the bottom for a strop is easily achieved. I prefer the float to be attached to a chain "strop" by a rope of equal length so that the float is pulled in toward the mooring buoy as the chain sinks. The float never has to bear any significant weight, but if you want belt and braces, then a wire can be brought up through the tube and formed in a loop as a handle to grab (covered in hose to avoid amputating fingers).
Rob.
P.S. the concept is about as much use as the "radar flag" (US Coastguard approved?)- a piece of tin foil flown as a flag to enhance the target area. Money for old rope.
The other poster's desire for a pick-up danbuoy is easy as a home-made version with an attachment ring on the bottom for a strop is easily achieved. I prefer the float to be attached to a chain "strop" by a rope of equal length so that the float is pulled in toward the mooring buoy as the chain sinks. The float never has to bear any significant weight, but if you want belt and braces, then a wire can be brought up through the tube and formed in a loop as a handle to grab (covered in hose to avoid amputating fingers).
Rob.
P.S. the concept is about as much use as the "radar flag" (US Coastguard approved?)- a piece of tin foil flown as a flag to enhance the target area. Money for old rope.
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Sandy
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Perhaps they do things differently on the other side of the pond?
VO5
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...arcane...
Plevier
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One of the most boring long winded promo videos I've ever seen, apparently written for numpties, watched the first 30 secs or so then just skipped through it.
Device itself quite irrelevant to UK yotties I think.
Device itself quite irrelevant to UK yotties I think.
prv
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Definitely - the thread disappeared temporarily and I was rather disappointed. It's not going to serve as any useful advertising, since everyone agrees it's a stupid idea.
Pete
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