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Yesterday I got a neighbour who is quite handy with a camera to use my camera to take some shots of me sailing up and down near the shore.
It's amazing what you see from a different perspective. It wasn't terribly breezy so the sails were not under a great deal of stress and creases and bags showed up distressingly well.
When you're on the boat you just can't get the overall picture.
I now realise when I'm sailing my

lazy jacks are too tight
clew outhaul is too tight
gooseneck is too high
cunningham is too slack
main tack should be pulled in tighter
headsail leech is too open

What a mess! It might be someting you want to try for yourselves, if you haven't already.

You can't see all that from this shot, but if you think I'm posting a shot of my boat with all those faults easily visible on here.................

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Are sure all of that is CLEARLY visible?
All I can see is some lucky bugger having a great time /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I think you are just trying to get in first with the criticisms before all and sundry do, whilst making everybody jealous of a lovely day sailing.

Am I right?

BTW, main looks a little over sheeted.
 
I obviously am not going to post the pics of the baggy sails with creases running all over.
Got two telltales flying which is good for me!

Here the main is out a bit more, but no telltales. (that island isn't quite as close as it looks)

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You may not .... but I like what I see !!

I have one comment .... the jib - as that is not what I call a genny (I reserve that word for larger !!) ... the Jib is loose on the leech ... tighter on the foot. ...... would moving the sheet car a touch fwd and pulling that leech straighter give you a touch more from the jib ? I don't know the wind that day ... but it appears a good breeze - so would look to reduce the twist in the jib ...

Main gives me impression that leech line may be a touch tight ??? But as I say - it's an impression ....


You Lucky Lucky Lucky B..........* !!

Actually SWMBO has been pushing me to go out on the river before autumn gets too "nippy" in the evenings ...... you may just have given me the push I need !!!!
 
Re: You may not .... but I like what I see !!

Yes Nigel. That's what I hinted at. The leech is too open and the car position could be a little further forward. There is no leech line on this sail.

I get the feeling it's not this boat's own headsail (I too don't regard it as a genoa). I think I need to raise the tack a little to give me more oportunity to pull down on the leech. I may experiment with a barber hauler to see if a more inboard position would improve it's set.

The breeze was probably no more than 10 mph in this shot and that's about as good as it got.
 
Re: You may not .... but I like what I see !!

I have to admit that I am one who says that Leech lines should be banned ..... a doubled hem on the leech of the sail would be better !!

Moving the genny sheet car fwd would cause sheets to pull that leech in harder and reduce the twist in the sail. As I see it the foot of the sail is quite a lot more tensioned than the leech allowing the twist.

Onto the main .... I get impression from the picture that the main has quite a "belly" as the leech is tight and sail is not. Slacking of the leech line may allow the leech to open up enough so that main can be sheeted more ... or less depending on wind angle.

We all know that flat sails are for one condition, bellyed sails for another ... but generally a good compromise of both can work in most cases ...

Still nice shots though and as you already know - we are talking "finer" points that really are un-necessary !! You look to be enjoying it - thats' the whole point of the game !!
 
I'm green with envy now...... after 15 years I've never had a decent piccie taken of my boat under sail.

I've a few I've taken either at a mooring, at anchor, in a marina, or ashore in the yard...... but all I have of us under sail is about 30 seconds of slightly out of focus video that was taken facing into the sun on a X-channel trip.

One day......
 
I had someone video my wee boat as I sailed a 360 circle around him,most revelatory.The boat has gone but I still have the video(with impromtu,unscripted audio!)
Nice pics and if I may be so bold...Is that a rudder or outboard leg at the back in the water,can't quite make it out.
If the jib sheet car wont go any further forward,can you try adding a temporary longer strop to the tack downhaul to lift the jib and see what difference a change in the 'slot' between jib and main makes to speed and helm?
Looks pretty good though really.
 
It is both rudder and outboard.
That's what I meant by raising the tack a bit. At the moment I have a little length of chain from the stemhead to a carbine hook for hanking on the headsail. I will try it a bit longer in the hope it pulls the leech in.
I may try sheeting in inside the shrouds to see if that creates a better slot.

RustyKnight. I was the same as you. My last boat only existed as pics on the mooring and from the cockpit. I did these purely to have some "under-way" shots and was amazed to see the obvious faults, which I couldn't see from on-board.
 
Have to agree.

I only saw the first pic of Silkie under sail at about this time last year though I've now got a fair collection now (thanks guys) and they are a great aid in dealing with those persistent sail trim issues.

Pick holes in this one:

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Sounds like a consultant to me.

'Advanced rig and trim solutions using latest still and video technology!'

I think all of the above would be more easy to spot by sailing her from the comfort of the cockpit. A couple might have benefitted from someone else helming whilst you look up the mast, and lay on the cabin top and look at the slot (so to speak)?

Sold the Heron yet?
 
i know we have just had some large spring tides but Im suprised they reached the lake district /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

must be boring driving home at 10mph.

I agree the headsail sheeting angle is too far aft .Try a 6 inch strop to raise the tack a bit to keep the clew off the deck,or just say bollock$ to it Im enjoying myself who cares.
 
Re: Sounds like a consultant to me.

The facts refute your assumption. That is to say I hadn't spotted these problems from the cockpit. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Heron possibly not going now, due to having had a couple of nice sails during the year. Depends on someone coming along with money when I'm of a mind to sell.

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I agree the headsail sheeting angle is too far aft .Try a 6 inch strop to raise the tack a bit to keep the clew off the deck,

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I used to have an 8" strop on it and all the sages told me it was not right.
So I'll try again.

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