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we moored on a pontoon up the river at Conwy next to a boat called pickle, is it the replica of the orginal Pickle thats just featured on the TV, boats that made history ?
 
deborahann said:
we moored on a pontoon up the river at Conwy next to a boat called pickle, is it the replica of the orginal Pickle thats just featured on the TV, boats that made history ?
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Probably, if it looks like an olde-worlde-boat. Was moored in Ipswich a good few years ago but they wanted cash to go on it and as an impoverished yachty, I refushed to take the money out of my beer fund.

Does she look like this (scroll down a bit)

http://www.hmspickle.org.uk/
 
yes, looked just like that, I think it was the replica Pickle. Could see it was probably one of those youth trainee boats based on an original, wish I'd taken a photo now.
 
deborahann said:
we moored on a pontoon up the river at Conwy next to a boat called pickle, is it the replica of the orginal Pickle thats just featured on the TV, boats that made history ?
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She was in Almwich (sp) for some time and the owner (Robin) at the time invited The Admiral and I on board for a look around. She is one of two that were built (I think in Russia) and are replicas of the ship that brought the news back to England that Nelson had been killed.

I thought she had gone out to the Carribean ?? Last saw her passing the Skerries about two years ago.

Tom
 
Tillernut said:
I'm in love.
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Me too! Sigh!

May be a replica above decks, but below decks is a totally different matter. No complaint, I think it is very sensible to take advantage of some modern comforts and technology.

I bet she cost more than £350,000 to build. If that were the totality of the cost I might be tempted to stump up for a share or two. However, I suspect that is only the start of it !!:(
 
I think to call it a replica is taking it a bit far. They were built in Russia for sail training, and not intended to look anything like the original HMS Pickle. I believe that she only received that name because she's a Nelson looking topsail schooner and at the time that the OYT bought her was also the run up to the bicentenary of Trafalgar.

Just out of interest though, is her sister ship 'Cymru' still sailing training around Wales?
 
Pickle was so small, never thought she had so much downstairs , but at £ 350,000 can't believe that
 
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Woodlouse said:
And a very, very optimistic price at that. A boat of that size should swallow up half a million. If it doesn't I wouldn't expect it to be built very well.
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There is a difference between what she cost to build and the asking price the vendor thinks will achieve a sale, paticularly since she is now 15 years old (and so could have a reasonable amount of refit work to be done).
 
Hi all, glad to hear that Pickle is still generating interest and discussions :-)

Anglele is right, there is always an amount of refit work to be done on a wooden ship. It's sometimes feels like I imagine the Humber Bridge to be like!:)

This last refit has been more extensive than other years... We have replaced two topmasts, some hull planking, deckplanking and some of the channels as well as overhauling all the systems including electrics, plumbing, pumps, steering, generators, navigational equipment, safety equipment...

I believe each of the ships (5 built) cost the equivalant of £1.2 million to build and complete. So they are pretty expensive items. And after all she is a small ship so the cost of systems are much higher than say a small yacht.

'Woodhouse' you're right our 'Schooner Pickle' was not built as an exact replica of HMS Pickle. But there are no plans of the original Pickle, in fact there is quite a bit of debate about where she originally came from... I lean towards what Tom Cunliffe said in the TV program on that matter.

However the plans of a 1799 topsail schooner that our 'Schooner Pickle' was built from (of which I have copies - originals I believe are in the Maritime Museum in Amsterdam) are very very close to what everyone believe's the Pickle to have been like by all the accounts that are available.

We have put lots of effort to then further evolve her into being the replica of HMS Pickle by altering things to that end. All of the 5 ships built in Russia are quite different today than when they were built, albeit all sharing the same hull form and the rig.

(Just a quick point to note... the OYT never owned Pickle. They did however charter her from us for some voyages in 2005.)

Either way I hope people still get to enjoy the Pickle, perhaps sail on her and appreciate her fabulous sailing capabilities and imagine what it was like 200yrs ago.

She's not minutely perfect and neither are we, but she does a fine job of representing as close as we can a great story from an important time in British Naval History.

She is a fast weatherly ship that we all (family & volunteer crew) really enjoy sailing. my 10 yrs old son loves her to bits having spent the last 5 years having adventures on her. Hopefully we will get some more this summer.
 
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