vjmehra
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If someone was too take photo's and was not paid for this, but these photo's were to be published in a commercial publication, theoretically would a permit from the PLA be required before taking the pictures?
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No Regrets
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vjmehra
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I'm a bit confused as to how that article helps.
Just in case I was being ambiguous, I'm essentially asking if a fee is payable to the PLA in the scenario described.
Just in case I was being ambiguous, I'm essentially asking if a fee is payable to the PLA in the scenario described.
Chris_d
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google again:
http://www.pla.co.uk/display_fixedpage.cfm/id/4051/site/pla
If you take pictures and they are subsequently published you may be challenged I guess.
http://www.pla.co.uk/display_fixedpage.cfm/id/4051/site/pla
If you take pictures and they are subsequently published you may be challenged I guess.
vjmehra
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Already checked that, but it doesn't categorically answer.
I've contacted the PLA anyway, but I was just hoping this scenario had arisen for someone who may be able to give a definitive answer.
I've contacted the PLA anyway, but I was just hoping this scenario had arisen for someone who may be able to give a definitive answer.
Chris_d
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Guess its one for the lawyers, but if you take pictures and know they are going to be published in a commercial publication i would say it doesn't matter if you are paid for it or not you still require the permit. Whether you will get caught or not is another thing.
No Regrets
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I would guess 'good publicity' is fine, nobody should care, bad publicity would be another thing!
Just a sensible suggestion?
Just a sensible suggestion?
Captain Coochie
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How can you get an answer if you dont discribe the situation ? Where you on PLA property when taking the photos ? If so then who ever took the photos still owns them and can sell them but will risk civil prosicution by the PLA for trespass if they wish to follow it up .
In other words if you take the picture you own the picture and can do what you wish with it .
In other words if you take the picture you own the picture and can do what you wish with it .
vjmehra
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No payment would ever occur, thats a very clearly defined area from what I can see.
However, if on the tidal Thames pictures were taken and used in a commerical publication (for which the photographer would not receive payment), then could it technically be defined as commercial photography?
I guess any pictures taken from a river bank would be fine, as they were not taken on PLA property.
However, if on the tidal Thames pictures were taken and used in a commerical publication (for which the photographer would not receive payment), then could it technically be defined as commercial photography?
I guess any pictures taken from a river bank would be fine, as they were not taken on PLA property.
Captain Coochie
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If the photographer is a pro photographer then its pretty bloody obvious he is doing it for commercial value even if no money actually changes hands . The water isnt owned by anyone but the river bed is .
Why are you asking silly questions ?
Why are you asking silly questions ?
vjmehra
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At no point did I say its a professional photographer, you made that assumption.
As for asking silly questions, quite simply because I don't know the answer and neither you nor anyone else has been able to give a definitive one.
As for asking silly questions, quite simply because I don't know the answer and neither you nor anyone else has been able to give a definitive one.
Captain Coochie
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Well if you try asking a direct question with facts you might get the answer 
vjmehra
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Okay, rather than getting annoyed, perhaps you could explain to me which part of the question was not clear?
Captain Coochie
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Work it out for yourself mate . I was just trying to help but if you dont want to give facts about the situation then no one can help .
No Regrets
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I think what Coochie is trying to say is 'Don't be so vague about things and your responses might be better quality'
Otherwise use Google like the rest of us...
Otherwise use Google like the rest of us...
vjmehra
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As I said previously, if you would be kind enough to explain what facts you feel I am ommiting then perhaps I could be more helpfull, I'm really not sure what further clarity I can provide.
I'll try again:
If random member of the public takes a picture whilst on the river then if it is printed in a commercial publication, would a permit from the PLA be required if they took no payment at any point, before, during or after publication.
I'll try again:
If random member of the public takes a picture whilst on the river then if it is printed in a commercial publication, would a permit from the PLA be required if they took no payment at any point, before, during or after publication.
Captain Coochie
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Thats better .
It has nothing to do with the PLA and you can take payment and it will still be nothing to do with the PLA .
It has nothing to do with the PLA and you can take payment and it will still be nothing to do with the PLA .
vjmehra
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ok cool thanks.
photodog
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If you take a picture in a public place that is not private property... then you can do with it as you will... with no fees payable to any third party.
If you take a picture in a public place of a person or of premises such as a factory... you can do with them as you please if there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.
If you are on private property then you will probably need consent to make the images and in some cases that are private property but a public place... for instance the national forest's... then you may need to purchase a permit from the land owner.
But on the river you are totally in the clear.
If you take a picture in a public place of a person or of premises such as a factory... you can do with them as you please if there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.
If you are on private property then you will probably need consent to make the images and in some cases that are private property but a public place... for instance the national forest's... then you may need to purchase a permit from the land owner.
But on the river you are totally in the clear.
vjmehra
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Great, thats very helpfull, I thought I read differently on the PLA website, obviously I misunderstood. Glad I asked now, it was painfull, but got there in the end ;-)