phantom 37 what your opinion

[Muxey]

Phantom 37 for sale fill most of my needs ,
What are your views of this model.

 

[oldgit]

A skipper had one of these for many many years and very pleased with the boat, his only real complaint was that space around the engine was very limited .
Something that might be worth checking if you are keen DIY er.
The boat went up for sale during the Covid price bubble, could have been bought privately for sub £50K, it might or might not have needed considerable work.
His boat had the 63P engines, suspect anything smaller is going to struggle to get it moving ?
It was eventually was sold via broker and reappeared on the market at around £90K. The price was dropping when it disappeared from the listings.
Name of boat ( transom door to port) and some of history if you are interested.PM.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

Two good family friends had these with one having two as the first burned down in less to a year.
The first1994 with Cats 306hp which ten months into its life burned down. Fairline replaced it under warranty with another 1996 with Volvo 318hp.
This model was one of the later (1996 units) with transom door moved to port side, instead of the central location. In 1997 the 37P was replaced by the 38P.
The Phantom 37 is a modernization of the 36 Corsica identical in most things, with the exception coming, that in it they modified the second cabin longer and has two in line berths.
For doing this, they moved the engines further aft, and the boat has a higher bow attitude then the Corsica.
For the rest good build quality nice wood work. The Volvo T63 318hp one tended to like high planning speeds of eighteen knots and was a bit hard to go on the plane if props get some growth.
Once it went on the plane it was a rocket touching even 32 knots going as fast to the Cat 355hp variant.

 

[henryf]

Two good family friends had these with one having two as the first burned down in less to a year.
The first1994 with Cats 306hp which ten months into its life burned down. Fairline replaced it under warranty with another 1996 with Volvo 318hp.
This model was one of the later (1996 units) with transom door moved to port side, instead of the central location. In 1997 the 37P was replaced by the 38P.
The Phantom 37 is a modernization of the 36 Corsica identical in most things, with the exception coming, that in it they modified the second cabin longer and has two in line berths.
For doing this, they moved the engines further aft, and the boat has a higher bow attitude then the Corsica.
For the rest good build quality nice wood work. The Volvo T63 318hp one tended to like high planning speeds of eighteen knots and was a bit hard to go on the plane if props get some growth.
Once it went on the plane it was a rocket touching even 32 knots going as fast to the Cat 355hp variant.

And there is a pretty comprehensive reply ?

 

[Sianna]

Is that the one up for sale with Parker Adams? If so that looks like a nice boat with a lovely looking refit.

 

[Muxey]

Yes that's it, we also like the sealines nnow need to lokkat both.
Looks like the mooring fees in the hamble are pretty high I would probably have to move it.

 

[Sianna]

Yes that's it, we also like the sealines nnow need to lokkat both.
Looks like the mooring fees in the hamble are pretty high I would probably have to move it.

It is a lovely looking boat, that someone has spent a lot on over the last 3 years.

All solent walk on moorings are exceptionally expensive, we are based at Bucklers Hard, I can't recomend it enough, beautiful sheltered location, mooring and anchoring spots up and down the river and easy access to the solent, but like everywhere it's pricey.

If you are looking for swinging moorings there are some cheaper options on the other side of Southampton water, that's where we started but we ended up at Bucklers as we use our boat 3 or 4 days or evenings a week, March/ April till Oct / Nov, so we ended up paying for the convenience to walk onboard.

The Sealine's are both a bit newer and both are running KAD32's nice straightforward engines, maybe not as punchy as the TAMD 63P engines though, the other boat I'd look at, if finances stretch, would be their Targa 34! Have fun looking

 

[Muxey]

Looks like around £750 per month for 12met. I guess that's the going rate for the South Coast.
I like the west coast of Scotland but the wife sys it rains too much .
Thanks for the reply.

 

[Sianna]

Looks like around £750 per month for 12met. I guess that's the going rate for the South Coast.
I like the west coast of Scotland but the wife sys it rains too much .
Thanks for the reply.

Your wife is right, I lived on the west coast of Scotland for 20 years and it pissed down most of that time ? awesome when it wasn't though, £750 a month is about right for the solent, too bloody expensive though.

 

[Elessar]

Looks like around £750 per month for 12met. I guess that's the going rate for the South Coast.
I like the west coast of Scotland but the wife sys it rains too much .
Thanks for the reply.

Go above the bridge in the Hamble and accept the tidal constraint and it’s cheaper. Or go up to the itchen (avoiding MDL)

 

[oldgit]

The 6 cylinder 63 engines and the 4 cylinder KAD32 are just about as far apart as you can get in the world of engines .
The Phantom and just about any Sealine are also totally different boats.
Without wishing to upset anybody , might be good idea to decide early on what you are looking for in boat.

 

[Muxey]

The 6 cylinder 63 engines and the 4 cylinder KAD32 are just about as far apart as you can get in the world of engines .
The Phantom and just about any Sealine are also totally different boats.
Without wishing to upset anybody , might be good idea to decide early on what you are looking for in boat.

My search is for a comfortable 4 occasional 6 berth around 12 met flybridge , I don't mind too much on age but condition is more important.
Early 6 pot volvo or a newer motor I don't mind I don't need 30 knots,
There are sealines with the 63 motors but I would like to keep below 100k with a mooring a bit more sensible than £750 a month,
The phantom caught my eye but has it had the epoxy treatment to the hull out of good maintenance or a problem.
I think we have hit the top of the market for a while, I noticed a few prices being reduced so maybe the next few months are the time to buy ready for summer.

 

[volvopaul]

Phantom 37 for sale fill most of my needs ,
What are your views of this model.

Lyonesse Hythe Marina?

 

[Muxey]

Lyonesse Hythe Marina?

I don't see it advertised anywhere?

 

[oldgit]

The phantom caught my eye but has it had the epoxy treatment to the hull out of good maintenance or a problem. I noticed a few prices being reduced so maybe the next few months are the time to buy ready for summer.

Could be either but the Phantom certainly does not have reputation for poorly finished hulls.
Usual advice is to go and look at anything and everything on the market that catches your eye, when the right boat does appear as you you walk down a pontoon for the umpteenth time it will probably stand out like sore thumb.
Sometimes a wild card will turn up, a boat that perhaps you thought would not be of interest suddenly appears and fits the bill.
As for prices.
" Bargains" and well priced nice boats are still usually gone before they hit the market, either mates or brokers that have lists of people with the money and abilty to buy.
There is only one reason that boats are reduced, nobody wants to buy them at the asking price.

Now is good time to buy, awful miserable weather, very few want to slide along along some icy pontoon, lift up some frozen canvas to peer inside a damp cold boat.
Leave it until the weather perks up and the world and his wife will be out there.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

Could be either but the Phantom certainly does not have reputation for poorly finished hulls.

The epoxy is usually done once stripping of old anti-fouling made. Most boat yards will suggest you to do it.
Nonetheless Fairline are known for being osmosis proof (even without epoxy), though some of these Fairlines are coming into thirty years now.
So a blister here and there would not be a big deal....
Osmosis is like rust in metal, it will always come out its part of the way grp is laid. The good one will have some rust after twenty years or more, the bad one after a couple.

 

[Muxey]

Lyonesse Hythe Marina?

Yes do you know the boat ?

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Lyonesse Hythe Marina?

 

[Muxey]

I don't see it advertised anywhere?

Yes do you know the boat?

 

[Muxey]

A skipper had one of these for many many years and very pleased with the boat, his only real complaint was that space around the engine was very limited .
Something that might be worth checking if you are keen DIY er.
The boat went up for sale during the Covid price bubble, could have been bought privately for sub £50K, it might or might not have needed considerable work.
His boat had the 63P engines, suspect anything smaller is going to struggle to get it moving ?
It was eventually was sold via broker and reappeared on the market at around £90K. The price was dropping when it disappeared from the listings.
Name of boat ( transom door to port) and some of history if you are interested.PM.

Hi is this 37 in Fambridge? Essex

 

[oldgit]

Hi is this 37 in Fambridge? Essex

The boat was on the Medway for many many years.
Can probably find out the name if its important ?