Perrkins 4107 spares and parts dealers

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My 4107 has run for 5 years since I bought 'Fairweather' with only service items being required. This year however I noticed that the cold start 'coil' ( thats what these engines have instead of the more commonly recognised glow plugs), had died.

Now of course my engine doesnt really need this as it starts first flick anyway, but does anyone have a good spares supplier they could recommend? BTW, it also needs the nylon adapter that it screws into and which in turn screws into the inlet manifold. This part fell apart as the heater coil/plug was removed.

As far as I can tell there should be no reason why I can not use the engine whilst there is this extra hole in the manifold, just so long as nothing get ingested....unless anyone knows better!

Thanks and regards Nick
 
I believe its availabvle from Lucas .... but if all else fails :

http://www.perkins.com/ who I found helpful in past when I had problems with mine.

It's worth trawling the yards as well - as there are quite a few old Perk's lieing around dead, taken out of boats - the cold-start if its the diesel fed hot-plug into side of intake pipe - is same on 4-99, 4-107 and 4-108 engines. In fact a lot of parts are interchangeable. I found that out when my 4-99 was swapped for a 4-107 few years back.
 
That range has been used on plant equipment since the beggining of time, so all sorts of industrial parts companies and mechanical engineers should have spares. Look for a diesel mechanic in Yellow PAges.
 
We have a 35 year old 4.108 and Golden Arrow Marine have provided wonderful service and parts. Even rushing a water pump to Australia after a local destroyed ours. www.goldenarrow.co.uk

Also, if you have a TMP Type 12000 I can recommend the parts service from Thamesway. He went way beyond service and built us a brand new gearbox in 2 days. If you do have this gearbox check the water cooling spigots are not brass or bronze. They are meant to be zincs that should be checked yearly. www.thameswaymarineproducts.co.uk
 
Yes I do have a TMP Gearbox and actually live only about 20 miles from Weybridge where they are based. I have only ever had to speak to them on 2 occasions and also found them very helpful.

The point about the 'spigots' is very interesting! I have on my list of things to get around to, a note about checking the engine anodes. I suppose that these zincs are in fact the anodes??And in that case how does one get 'em out...I hav'nt looked closely but from memory they look like a press fit?

One interesting point that the guy a TMP made when I spoke to hime a couple of years back ( but dont take this as Gospel) was that the water cooling 'plate' between the engine and g/box can corode thro'... this plate is almost like a bulkhead between the engine and box....and cooling water enter the 'box..nasty..

However he also said that in fact its not really neccesary to run the cooling water through the g/box cooler at all unless you intend to run the engine flat out all day long.

Regards Nick
 
As far as I remember cooling water is required otherwise I would have bypassed it. If you ever get to see those output gears you will understand. They are huge.

We pulled out the engine to do some work below it. and while it was out we needed to find out why the gearbox oil blew out in rough seas. I started to take the face plate bolts off and put the screwdriver through the casing. Whoops! It was a good job the paint was thick. We had replaced the spigots with anodes 4 years earlier but it was many years too late. The damage had occurred before our time. We were in Australia and our visa was running out, that why we are indebted to Thamesway.

The zincs have a cut groove on the out bound end and a hole drilled through them. The cut end is the detector for if they are to be replaced. It the end falls off or is missing you need to replace them. The hole is to put a bar through to unscrew them.

Thank you for reminding me I need to check them again.
 
I think I'll give TMP a quick ring to check out the water cooling issue (and also take a look at my anodes). I do remember the the guy at TMP saying they have a big pile of cooloing plates that have coroded through!

I often wonder how we ever ran our boats without the input from this forum!

Many thanks Nick
 
I have just made a call to TMP whilst the subject was on my mind.. and once again very helpful..Basically they dont do the the 'anodic' stubs any more as they consider them dangerous, ( they corode thro and drop off)...they generally find the old ones tricky to get out but its possible to cut the stub off flush ( if it wont unscrew) and then cut down the thread and peel 'em out. pair of new ali stubs £32.90.

I asked about running without water cooling and he said that its prob okay with the mk2 as it is ball races but the later mk4 is roller bearings so develops more heat...got the general impression that it wasnt a great idea!...Im sure it would be okay for a short while tho.

All best Nick
 
Re: Perkins 4107 spares and parts dealers

Does anyone have a list of what other generators/dumper trucks etc the 4.107 equivalent was used in?
 
It might be worth taking the old cold-start unit into an agricultural dealer, to see if they recognise it. The old MF35 (Perkins 3.152) and 50B digger (Perkins 4.212) both used a thing called a "Thermostart" in the inlet manifold. This was heated electrically, and has a fuel supply. Yours may be the same. Does it look like this ..

http://www.vapormatic.com/drilldown/defa...OSI_PR4_PCN_BIX
 
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