Perpignan to Solent in 3 Legs

[Halcytwo]

Starting at the end of March we will be bring our Alan Pape back from South France to the solent.
Seeking crew.
There will be 3 legs as follows
Perpignan to Gib 28.03.13 to 07.04.13
Gib to Baiona 02.05.13 to 12.05.13
Baiona to Solent.13.06.13 to 23.06.13
Two legs are potentially Ocean qualifying passages and preference will be given to any one wanting to do this.
You will of course be expected to contribute to food whilst on board & pay your on travell etc.

Please PM for more details.

 

[SteveSarabande]

How do they qualify as ocean trips? Apart from biscay leg they are basically coastal sailing, and one of them is non-tidal.

I thought you had to be way offshore for most of the journey. Do these really count?

 

[Halcytwo]

Ocean qualifying trip

Steve
I said there was 2 potential qualifiers, obviously from Perpignan to Gib is not.
As I am aware ocean passage must be min 600 miles without stopping & more than 200 or 250 of that must be more than 50 miles offshore.
From Gib its also possible as a qualifier (i know people that have done it & its been accepted by the RYA) Out of Gib Go wide round S/W tip of Portugal missing all the shipping lanes then run up the West coast 60-70 miles off & gradually come back in after Porto.
Thats about 650 miles when done right.

 

[ean_p]

Hi
can you PM me greater details as regards timings/costings etc as I may be able to join with you on one or more legs depending on the specifics of my working rota!

regards

Ian P

 

[SteveSarabande]

Steve
I said there was 2 potential qualifiers, obviously from Perpignan to Gib is not.
As I am aware ocean passage must be min 600 miles without stopping & more than 200 or 250 of that must be more than 50 miles offshore.
From Gib its also possible as a qualifier (i know people that have done it & its been accepted by the RYA) Out of Gib Go wide round S/W tip of Portugal missing all the shipping lanes then run up the West coast 60-70 miles off & gradually come back in after Porto.
Thats about 650 miles when done right.

The rules seem to be open to some interpretation. I didn't realise that a coastal cruise (50mile offshore) off spain would count. You also need to be skipper or watch leader for it to count, is that in the plans for a suitably qualified crew?

Ocean passage as skipper or mate of watch. The candidate was fully involved in the planning of the passage, including selection of the route, the navigational plan, checking the material condition of the yacht and her equipment, storing spare gear, water and victuals and organising the watch-keeping routine; During the passage a minimum non-stop distance of 600 miles must have been run by the log, the yacht must have been at sea continuously for at least 96 hours and the yacht must have been more than 50 miles from land while sailing a distance of at least 200 miles

 

[Halcytwo]

SteveV2

I dont think my crew wanted post is really the place to be discussing the finer details of the RYA criteria for an Ocean Passage.
Perhaps you should start you own post on another part of this forum to discuss this and the potential interpretation of them.
I dont make the rules !
You also seem to think that there is a potential problem with an Ocean candidate coming on the boat as a watch leader ?
I myself will be on the boat,I am a commercially qualified Yachtmaster Ocean, to then have a Ocean Candidate, who potentially will be a Yachtmaster, then 2 or 3 others of varying experience, is more than acceptable.
Can i ask what qualifications you hold ?

 

[SteveSarabande]

your right, I should pollute your advert, I will enquire elsewhere.

I am a long way of ocean standard yet, but I don't see why that stops me questioning how a coastal passage qualifies as an ocean qualifier.

 

[Halcytwo]

Stevev2

A quote from the RYA web site as to Coastal sailing qualification.

"If you need a Yachtmaster™ Coastal Certificate of Competence in order to work on board a commercial craft subject the MCA's codes of practice, you will need to get it commercially endorsed - see left. You can then work on commercial vessels up to 24m in length, operating in category 3, 4, 5 and 6 waters - that is up to 20 miles from a nominated departure point in fine weather and daylight."

May I suggest that you visit the RYA website and see what a yachtmaster Coastal, offshore & Ocean are all about.

Why I asked about your qualification was to see what experience you had.

Part of the ocean may only require sailing 50+ miles offshore but doing 600 miles in an average yacht will take 5 or 6 days at sea, without seeing land, not everyone can cope with that, I know people that have freaked when going across channel as the land starts to dissapear, or a worse situation of cross channel on a dark night & hitting a fog bank right in the shipping lanes when vis is down to about 10 meters, certainly not everyones cup of tea.

Experience is what really counts !