jdc
Well-Known Member
The debate on whether there is a legal requirement to make a passage plan is, imho, less relevant than "what constitutes an appropriate passage plan?"
So this thread is an attempt to establish what is generally accepted practice for written plans. This is potentially important since demonstration of adherence to "generally accepted practice" is a valid legal defence against a charge of negligence.
I've always done a written one for passages which will be long enough for me to have to sleep - a bit arbitrary a threshold but better than none at all I guess. I also have a personal risk assessment scoring system - but since not all share my predilection for being quantitive I've left out how it works.
To get the debate more concrete, critique this please (a random selection, this one from 2010) - I have no idea if modern teaching, (or a judge) would consider it sufficient, o.t.t. or grossly negligent.
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All times GMT
Thursday 17th June 2010
PASSAGE FROM Mylor to Plockton: ~550 miles
Aim not to stop until in Scottish waters. If weather is perfect we could go due north past the smalls and on to close N Ireland near Strangford. But it would be more fun during daylight to pass up E side of Ireland inside the banks until Dublin. Alternatively we could go via the Isle of Man.
First stop is planned to be Lagavulin on Islay, then via the Corryvreken west of Mull to Iona, through the sound of Iona, stop at Staffa for a visit and thence to the sound of Sleat.
TIDES (from WXTide32, so accurate to 20mins and 20cm):
Dover
Thursday 17th
HW 02:12 6.4
LW 09:34 1.1
HW 14:34 6.4
LW 22:01 1.0
Friday 18th
HW 03:06 6.3
LW 10:24 1.3
HW 15:30 6.3
LW 22:54 1.1
Saturday 19th
HW 04:05 6.1
LW 11:18 1.4
HW 16:29 6.2
Falmouth
Thursday 17th
LW 02:45 0.9
HW 08:55 5.1
LW 15:02 1.2
HW 21:12 5.3
PLAN
Crew: Me, ----, --------- and ---. [names redacted]
Wednesday 16th June
Since there are no flights to Newquay anymore we'll drive from Cambridge that evening, but not sure how --- will get down in that case (maybe he'll take the train during the day). Arrive about 21:30 at Mylor and eat at Castaway's.
Thursday 17th June
Current turns westerly at Lizard at about HW+3 Falmouth, ie 1pm BST. Try to be here at this time, so set off at 10:00 BST. This is good: it means we can get fresh stores for the voyage either from Mylor or from Falmouth en-route. I must have left the boat full of fuel and water and non-perishable stores a fortnight before.
18 miles to Lizard, then 24 miles to Longships - despite being with tide allow 6kts, so 5pm BST. Tide N going past Longships HW Falmouth +4 for the next 7 hours, so 2pm - 9pm, hence we should carry a fair tide all the way from the Lizard. This takes an hour or two pressure off the leaving time.
Then turn N towards the Smalls or the SE Irish coast (depends on the wind).
100 miles due N to Smalls lt, 100 miles on 017 to Milford and 133 miles on 355 to Carnsore point. If adverse winds we will probably carry on and just tack unless horridly strong (in which case we'll probably skulk in the Scilles).
In emergency, bolt holes are to go W to Kinsale, turn round back into Mounts bay or to the Scillies. Could go to Lundy, which is 76 miles on 040, but it's only good in a westerly and it's northerlies we fear. But if the wind turns unexpectedly strong we could go there to wait a while (quite fun but then a NW wind would be dead ahead for the next part of the voyage).
Some approximate idea of timing allowing 6kts average:
Falmouth 09:00
Lizard 18mi 12:00
Longships 24mi 16:00
Carnsore 133mi 14:00 Friday 18th
Wicklow 48mi 22:00 (now dark, so not good for the navigator's sleep to stay inshore) Maybe best pass outside Codling bank.
South Rock 90mi 13:00 Saturday 19th
Kintyre 57mi 22:00 Pass about 1.5 miles west, staying in the ITZ
Lagavulin 36mi 04:00 Sunday 20th
After this it's so uncertain and there are so many options I'll re-plan once there.
Bolt-holes once near Ireland are Arklow (which is safe inside albeit grotty but faces NE and would be dangerous to enter or leave in strong NE winds) or Dun Laoghaire or Howth near Dublin, or further north, for instance Carlingford Loch.
Risk assessment / J score:
Passage difficulty: -3 (off shore, shipping lanes, 4 nights at sea)
Weather likelihood: +3 (mid June, long days)
Total: boat +4
crew +4 +2 * 2 / 3 + 2 * 1/3 = 6
passage -3
weather +3
Total = +10, nicely positive
So this thread is an attempt to establish what is generally accepted practice for written plans. This is potentially important since demonstration of adherence to "generally accepted practice" is a valid legal defence against a charge of negligence.
I've always done a written one for passages which will be long enough for me to have to sleep - a bit arbitrary a threshold but better than none at all I guess. I also have a personal risk assessment scoring system - but since not all share my predilection for being quantitive I've left out how it works.
To get the debate more concrete, critique this please (a random selection, this one from 2010) - I have no idea if modern teaching, (or a judge) would consider it sufficient, o.t.t. or grossly negligent.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
All times GMT
Thursday 17th June 2010
PASSAGE FROM Mylor to Plockton: ~550 miles
Aim not to stop until in Scottish waters. If weather is perfect we could go due north past the smalls and on to close N Ireland near Strangford. But it would be more fun during daylight to pass up E side of Ireland inside the banks until Dublin. Alternatively we could go via the Isle of Man.
First stop is planned to be Lagavulin on Islay, then via the Corryvreken west of Mull to Iona, through the sound of Iona, stop at Staffa for a visit and thence to the sound of Sleat.
TIDES (from WXTide32, so accurate to 20mins and 20cm):
Dover
Thursday 17th
HW 02:12 6.4
LW 09:34 1.1
HW 14:34 6.4
LW 22:01 1.0
Friday 18th
HW 03:06 6.3
LW 10:24 1.3
HW 15:30 6.3
LW 22:54 1.1
Saturday 19th
HW 04:05 6.1
LW 11:18 1.4
HW 16:29 6.2
Falmouth
Thursday 17th
LW 02:45 0.9
HW 08:55 5.1
LW 15:02 1.2
HW 21:12 5.3
PLAN
Crew: Me, ----, --------- and ---. [names redacted]
Wednesday 16th June
Since there are no flights to Newquay anymore we'll drive from Cambridge that evening, but not sure how --- will get down in that case (maybe he'll take the train during the day). Arrive about 21:30 at Mylor and eat at Castaway's.
Thursday 17th June
Current turns westerly at Lizard at about HW+3 Falmouth, ie 1pm BST. Try to be here at this time, so set off at 10:00 BST. This is good: it means we can get fresh stores for the voyage either from Mylor or from Falmouth en-route. I must have left the boat full of fuel and water and non-perishable stores a fortnight before.
18 miles to Lizard, then 24 miles to Longships - despite being with tide allow 6kts, so 5pm BST. Tide N going past Longships HW Falmouth +4 for the next 7 hours, so 2pm - 9pm, hence we should carry a fair tide all the way from the Lizard. This takes an hour or two pressure off the leaving time.
Then turn N towards the Smalls or the SE Irish coast (depends on the wind).
100 miles due N to Smalls lt, 100 miles on 017 to Milford and 133 miles on 355 to Carnsore point. If adverse winds we will probably carry on and just tack unless horridly strong (in which case we'll probably skulk in the Scilles).
In emergency, bolt holes are to go W to Kinsale, turn round back into Mounts bay or to the Scillies. Could go to Lundy, which is 76 miles on 040, but it's only good in a westerly and it's northerlies we fear. But if the wind turns unexpectedly strong we could go there to wait a while (quite fun but then a NW wind would be dead ahead for the next part of the voyage).
Some approximate idea of timing allowing 6kts average:
Falmouth 09:00
Lizard 18mi 12:00
Longships 24mi 16:00
Carnsore 133mi 14:00 Friday 18th
Wicklow 48mi 22:00 (now dark, so not good for the navigator's sleep to stay inshore) Maybe best pass outside Codling bank.
South Rock 90mi 13:00 Saturday 19th
Kintyre 57mi 22:00 Pass about 1.5 miles west, staying in the ITZ
Lagavulin 36mi 04:00 Sunday 20th
After this it's so uncertain and there are so many options I'll re-plan once there.
Bolt-holes once near Ireland are Arklow (which is safe inside albeit grotty but faces NE and would be dangerous to enter or leave in strong NE winds) or Dun Laoghaire or Howth near Dublin, or further north, for instance Carlingford Loch.
Risk assessment / J score:
Passage difficulty: -3 (off shore, shipping lanes, 4 nights at sea)
Weather likelihood: +3 (mid June, long days)
Total: boat +4
crew +4 +2 * 2 / 3 + 2 * 1/3 = 6
passage -3
weather +3
Total = +10, nicely positive