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Why? What are they going to do with it? What about those of us not at a marina?

Even if you give your plan to the CG they will only re-act when someone reports you missing.

Leaving a copy of your intended passageplan is a good idea - as is having an on-shore contact who you keep up to date with where you are and where you're going...
 

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You are right the others are wrong.

For Marina owners its very important to know bertholders passage plans so that they can let your marina berth while you are away to maximise their profit.

Sorry but no benefit to you though!!
 

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You are right the others are wrong.

For Marina owners its very important to know bertholders passage plans so that they can let your marina berth while you are away to maximise their profit.

Sorry but no benefit to you though!!

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I agree with the issue
however, better to keep your shore contact updated with your progress who can then inform the coastguard who will have your up to date CG66 handy if you go awol, that is of course if the CG dont already know yur plight because you have already pressed the little red panic button on your dsc for which you have linked to your gps and got a mmsi number which is also shown on your CG66.....think ive had too much to drink and its only midday /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 

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A reply to flaming and others.

The trip is 270M across North Sea to Holland.

This CG66 thing I understand, is; quote 'The Coastguard Voluntary Safety Identification Scheme'

My boat is already on the SSR (just updated at a cost of £25)

Am I right in thinking the passage plan is a quite separate thing?
 

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The passage plan need not even be written down, it can all be in your head. Who has told you the marina would want one? As others have said, their only probable interest is how many days you will be away to re let your berth.

The CG66 isn't anything to do with SSR, you can register free here
 

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Register on the CG66 scheme - its free. Then you can radio (as routine traffic)your passage plan to Coastguard, telling them you are CG66. That makes it all very simple.
 

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still agreeing with the snail, marina interest is only for their gain. your ssr is purely a cheaper way of registering a british vessel. my re-registration was 80 quid for the old blue book style. those dets are not passed onto the MCA although the dets are available on the shipping register. If you want the coast guard to know who you are then send them the CG66 with as much detail as possible. it wont stop you having crisis heaven forbid but it will aid in search and rescue should the worst occur. I do chatham to ostend every year and always infm the CG that im heading out. they wont act if you forget to tell them you arrive but it is good practice to do it. i put a reminder on me phone 12 hours later to remind me to ring em when i arrive, also as back up me shore contact knows to call them if they have not heard from me for the last 20 hrs. Its not the law, its just common sense....log into the marine accident investigation site for plentyof examples of 'when sailing goes wrong' as far as passage plan....i was always under the impression that it should be written down under the solas V regs...i stand to be corrected
 

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We always call up the marina if away for more then 24 hours. This is not just so they can sub-let the berth but to do a radio check on the VHF.
 

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The passage plan is written down, I'm not sure why a marina should want a copy of the plan, that's why I'm asking the forum. I'm happy to inform the marina of my absence so they may rent my pontoon whilst I'm away. Hopefully their increased income will minimise my future marina fees increase.

I was thinking that my marina would be able to talk to CG should my arrival be overdue.

I shall report to CG my intended destination and number of people on board shortly after departure. The forum response reassures me the marina do not need a passage plan. Thanks guys.
 

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...I'm not sure why a marina should want a copy of the plan, that's why I'm asking the forum....

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Ask the marina as well, it would be interesting to know their reason - if they are doing it for safety purposes it would seem to be an extra service they are offering for beneficial reasons.
 

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NP ...

you do have a family/friend a shore contact don't you .... just give them a timescale in which you intend to arrive and if they haven't heard from you after x hours then they should contact the CG ... (dunno what X is ... I think someone said 20 hours above, but would that be 20hrs from last contact or 20hrs from expected contact?!)
 

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CG66 is a good idea but more important is to have a friend ashore who will monitor progress and call coastguard if concerned.

I believe in not reinventing the wheel and have learnt a lot from this Forum.

I always prefer to learn from others mistakes rather than my own as such I have found the MAIB safety reports on leisure craft incidents a great learning tool. The latest is 1/2007 - look up the MAIB website.

I note the first page states :-
1. Wear Lifejackets
2. Check engine and fuel
3. Tell others where you are going.
4. Carry means of calling for help.
5. Keep eyes on weather and tides.

I know it all appears obvious but after reading this years reports it needs restating for some.

Enjoy the trip.
 

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I was thinking that my marina would be able to talk to CG should my arrival be overdue

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If you are overdue arriving in Holland or wherever, your Marina will probably be the last to know about it. If you inform the Coastguard, then they will not check with your intended destination port unless a third party reports you as overdue.

At that point they may ask your marina if they have any info of your intentions, but that should be identical to the info they already have, so will be no help.

If overdue on the way back then the marina is still unlikely to do anything with that info unless reported by a third party.
So, as others said there is no point informing Marina of your passage plan, just how long you intend to be away.
If you do inform coastguard, you must inform destination coastguard of your safe arrival in case of any concerned phone calls from family etc. to avoid giving them any unnecessary concerns.
 

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...I have found the MAIB safety reports on leisure craft incidents a great learning tool. The latest is 1/2007 - look up the MAIB website.

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I guess you mean this document? - an interesting read, thanks for that.
 

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The question and elaboration above make me somewhat nervous for you. If you have crossed to the other side, you will already know that no authority in the UK follows or enquires after your passage. Whatever you have been told this is the case.

To safeguard your interests, you should fill in the CG66, which can be done on line, in case a subsequent enquiry to the CG is made: they then have a record of your details for identification purposes.

The SSR document is just that - and might be required overseas to authenticate the boat. It has no implications for your passage.

I strongly recommend you take a mobile phone with overseas roaming to Holland because the Dutch are ripping out all the public telephone boxes. Making a short call back to UK base to reassure folks will be hard without this, and this is really your best means of announcing a successful passage.

I wish you well, the mussels will shortly be served, and the Dutch do the very best....oh yes, they do!

PWG
 
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