Overnight anchor in Llandudno bay??

[pcatterall]

Possible in decent weather conditions.
Our proposed trip from Preston to Menai may be a bit far unless we motor fairly fast all the way.
Liverpool just adds miles ( even using Rock channel) and Conwy is also too far with the treck up the channel included.
Any other ideas??
Thanks team, as ever

 

[Searush]

Not a place I would choose to overnight myself. Get your tides right - arrive off Gt Orme at low water & carry the flood up the Straits as far as Gallows point, anywhere between that & Menai Bridge will be excellent shelter in almost any weather. Usually a few vacant moorings about.

Rhyl is not an easy entrance but is sheltered. I wouldn't try it with strong onshore winds. There isn't a lot of shelter around there, but another option is Amlwch on the N coast of Anglesey.

You could try IoM as an intermediate stop.

 

[TSB240]

Moelfre? Traeth Bychan?

Good shelter from prevailing SW..

http://www.nwvyc.org.uk/anchorages.html

 

[peteK]

Possible in decent weather conditions.
Our proposed trip from Preston to Menai may be a bit far unless we motor fairly fast all the way.
Liverpool just adds miles ( even using Rock channel) and Conwy is also too far with the treck up the channel included.
Any other ideas??
Thanks team, as ever

I would be inclined to make for Beaumaris,no further than Conway when you take into account the approach channel.Also when you come out of Conway the wind always seems to be on the nose, usually plenty of spare moorings both drying and afloat.You can go through the Swellies from there (2 hrs before high water Liverpool)and pay a visit to Caernarvon.

 

[akyaka]

If you are likely to arrive on an adverse tide for the Straits or Conway I would go to Moelfre. Most of the answers including this assume a west/south westerly wind . If there is any north or north east I would plump for Conway assuming the tide will let you in.The Straits can be lumpy in a north easterly right down to Menai Bridge particularly in wind over tide.

 

[Searush]

If you are likely to arrive on an adverse tide for the Straits or Conway I would go to Moelfre. Most of the answers including this assume a west/south westerly wind . If there is any north or north east I would plump for Conway assuming the tide will let you in.The Straits can be lumpy in a north easterly right down to Menai Bridge particularly in wind over tide.

Usually OK past Gallows point. There are visitors' mooring off the Gazelle & usually spare moorings around Menai Bridge. Strong winds may be noisy but it's pretty safe. There is little other shelter from the NW unless you can take the ground & get into Conway or Traeth Bychan (Red Wharf) where sandbanks will protect you when the tide falls - or go thro the Swellies.

Holyhead has deep water but can be uncomfortable in a NWly blow & is £15/night for a swinging mooring. Wind over tide can be uncomfortable anywhere around that coast as much of it is pretty shallow.

 

[tom_sail]

Possible in decent weather conditions.
Our proposed trip from Preston to Menai may be a bit far unless we motor fairly fast all the way.
Liverpool just adds miles ( even using Rock channel) and Conwy is also too far with the treck up the channel included.
Any other ideas??
Thanks team, as ever

Just east of the midpoint point of the pier is a mooring i laid it last year. We usually only lay it in the summer and pull it up the winter. I haven't been asked to pull it up this winter but someone else might off.

We moor a club members westerly konsort duo on it over night while Llandudno sailing club week long national championships are on. If there's more then a f4 forecast he motors back to his berth in Conwy.

Use at your own risk if it's there

 

[akyaka]

Usually OK past Gallows point

but lumpy in a north easterly with any strength in the wind and off the Gazelle is particularly bouncy .

We usually only lay it in the summer and pull it up the winter. I haven't been asked to pull it up this winter but someone else might off.

If its a legal mooring its a condition of the mooring agreement that its taken up. Hopefully Alan Price the Moorings Officer doesn't read this.

 

[pcatterall]

Yes, many thanks guys. As this is our first day out after winter we regard it as a shake down day.
Crew are not keen on finding moorings or even setting anchor in the dark, our concern was to be secure before night fall.
Menai and Anglesy may just be a tad too far unless we go flat out on engine all the way.
IOM takes us even further away.

 

[Searush]

In that case what about Mostyn Dock on the Dee? I've never been there, but I wouldn't recommend anchoring anywhere on the Welsh side of the Dee (strong tides) and the Wirral side all dries out. I think it is a commercial dock, but might be worth a call as it splits the journey pretty neatly in two.

When are you planning to make this trip? I used to travel from Heswall to Conway regularly & it is typically a 10 hour trip. I don't like the idea of a big trip as the first of the season, too many things can go wrong first time out.

Incidentally, picking up moorings at night will be Ok if there is plenty of light - Conway, Menai Bridge, & probably Mostyn & Rhyl will have lots of lights around that will make it relatively easy.

 

[BobnLesley]

Have you got a flopper-stopper?

Overnight anchor in Llandudno Bay:

We did it once and despite there not having been a breath of wind for two days, we rolled all night; it wasn't one of our better ideas.

 

[kieronriley]

hilbre island

first,whats the boat,long keel or bilge and what length,sailing to conwy and the straits is our usual cruising,we sail from the alt and you would be welcome to pick up a mooring there but you would find the tides all wrong to do that,maybee you could do what some of our members do when goiing to preston,as this cant be done on the one tide they go over to hilbre island and find a spot to anchor up for a few hours and then go off to preston .so if you left preston and headed for hilbre you can get in at all states of the tide and depending as allways on wind direction and a good study of the chart find a spot to anchor,leaving just before the ebb arrive conwy bay at slack water and then take the flood up the straits,it all as allways depends on the wind,and on the day if all goes well just do it i the one hop.best of luck,Kieron

 

[pcatterall]

Thanks again.
I've just gone over the various permutions ( and there are many!)
If Menai is just that bit too far then Conwy ( on reflection) is a possibility ( my old mooring may still be empty!!)
Liverpool is always there if any teething problems occur.
I looked at Hibre and notice there is asuggested anchorage just south of the islands and just off the channel should anyone want to come chugging through there!
Mind you there is no shelter at all so I guess this is only suitable for very calm conditions. Can't work out (kieronriley) what the 'alt' is!!
Thanks again

 

[peteK]

In that case what about Mostyn Dock on the Dee? I've never been there, but I wouldn't recommend anchoring anywhere on the Welsh side of the Dee (strong tides) and the Wirral side all dries out. I think it is a commercial dock, but might be worth a call as it splits the journey pretty neatly in two.

When are you planning to make this trip? I used to travel from Heswall to Conway regularly & it is typically a 10 hour trip. I don't like the idea of a big trip as the first of the season, too many things can go wrong first time out.

Incidentally, picking up moorings at night will be Ok if there is plenty of light - Conway, Menai Bridge, & probably Mostyn & Rhyl will have lots of lights around that will make it relatively easy.

Mostyn dock is no longer there,it was filled in a few years ago.