Ore entrance 29th April 2025 LWS

Johnah said:
Ore entrance this morning at 7am LWS, 0.3m above CD.

Refer to the Orford harbourmaster or East Coast Pilot for the chartlet and advice.


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Sorry but I don’t find these drone shots any help. The problem / issue is depth and cross flow. I find the real issue with the Alde /Ore the depth once you are in. The section until you are past the open section is subject to current and varying depth.
 
PaulRainbow said:
ECP says enter 2 hours before HW. Is that Orford quay or Orford Ness tide times ?
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Orford Haven times
PaulRainbow said:
Visit my Harbour says "good time to enter would be about one to two hours after local low water"
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Yes ... IF you have a shallow draught, and IF the sea state is calm, and IF it's not a very low tide, then LW+90 is ideal because that's when the current is slack in the river mouth. Assuming you're coming or going from the South, it also means that you'll have a fair tide the whole way.
 
I use the predicted height from the tidal curve on Willyweather for depth on both the Deben and Ore bars.

If anything they're slightly conservative and there's usually more water than the prediction says there will be.
 
PaulRainbow said:
We are planning to visit the Ore at the coming weekend.

ECP says enter 2 hours before HW. Is that Orford quay or Orford Ness tide times ?

Visit my Harbour says "good time to enter would be about one to two hours after local low water"
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I tend to go in a couple of hours before HW, a couple of hours after LW would significantly enhance the risk of an extended coffee break in the entrance (with a 1.7m draft)
 
RivalRedwing said:
I tend to go in a couple of hours before HW, a couple of hours after LW would significantly enhance the risk of an extended coffee break in the entrance (with a 1.7m draft)
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Much younger and even less smarter than I am now I faced the choice on my very first entrance to the Ore of either going in at dusk over the ebb or waiting 'till dark with unlit buoys and absolutely no familiarity to take advantage of the young flood.

It took 45 minutes with the asthmatic outboard I had at the time absolutely flat out to get from the Oxley PHB and round the corner into the Ore proper...

And guess what? Revelling in my new found Master Navigator status I ran aground and got completely stuck sideways on the horse that used to be in the middle of the channel on the ebb coming out a couple of days later.
 
Sailing steve said:
Much younger and even less smarter than I am now I faced the choice on my very first entrance to the Ore of either going in at dusk over the ebb or waiting 'till dark with unlit buoys and absolutely no familiarity to take advantage of the young flood.

It took 45 minutes with the asthmatic outboard I had at the time absolutely flat out to get from the Oxley PHB and round the corner into the Ore proper...

And guess what? Revelling in my new found Master Navigator status I ran aground and got completely stuck sideways on the horse that used to be in the middle of the channel on the ebb coming out a couple of days later.
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I often found the horse the most worrying bit coming in as by then you had a couple of knots of tide running with you so any grounding would be at pace.

My first copy of East Coast Rivers talked about a solitary beacon on shore and the Haven SWM unlikely to have been moved in recent years, how did we manage?
 
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