Options for retracting/flush fit cleats and fairleads for 25mm lines

vas

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evening all,

still unable to work on MiToS so working at home and thinking/searching.
Following latest discussions on the main rebuilt thread, the consensus is that I need to add another set of cleats on top of the bulwarks on the aft deck. Having two active teens on board (and inevitably their friends) is something I'm slightly worried about with bits of ss protruding from the 580-620mm high bulwarks.

I've come across retracting cleats, reasonably priced, BUT haven't managed to find any fairleads that disappear out of sight and end up flush on the capping.

So, a twofold Q:

  • anyone got anything to suggest? mooring lines are approx. 25mm dia so looking for a reasonably sized approx. 250mm long device
  • If I fit the retractable cleats only 150-200mm from the side to transom capping corner, can I get away without fairleads?
    Mind floating pontoon is fairly low so there's going to be a steapish angle downwards (I know not right!) and even if I use these top ones for the cross lines, there may be some rubbing on the bulwarks teak edging.
other ideas?
Main set of cleats are 200mm up the bulwarks on the sides, lines going through hawseholes on the transom. That remains as is.

Cheers

V.
 
Here is what we currently have on your sister (or is that grand daughter) ship ....

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So that's the cleat only option.
Iirc your daughter is slightly older than my 12-13yo, so she should be okay, not sure about mine jumping about to the bathing platform.

I may go for the corner placement of one retractable cleat only there

other options/ideas?

cheers

V.
 
Daughter was 14 when she first took the boat into berth in marina ... Theory of "if seen, they will avoid" still stand (simples....).... all depends on where ladder runs down ... and remember our sterns sweep in the opposite direction to modern boats, so just "jumping" down is not that intuitive....
 
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