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bogart

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as some of you might know im only a learner, somedayday sailor, but recently at the boat show , i took the opportunity to take a trial sail, on a hanse 30, it heeled a lot , i must admit i was a bit scared, how easy would it have been for this boat to capsize, when the person in charge let this rope tied to the boom it did,nt heel so much, and what are lazy jacks,
ps i know i ask some stupid questions, be tolerant with me please,
 

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G'day Derek,
You heard about the kid sitting with his grandad watching the traffic go by, he asked "were do you think that big truck is headed grandad"? "not sure son" replied grandy. A moment later the kid asked "What is that the man has on his trailer?" "not sure son" replied grandy. Then the kid said "look grandy the police car is chasing that sports car, will they get him, and, why are they after him? "not at all sure son replied grandy, "grandy you don't mind me asking you all these questions do you" asked the kid, "why not all son, how else are you going to learn things".

So back to your question. It is most unlikely the boat will tip over as the further it goes the less sail area is exposed to the wind, when the mainsail was eased out it also reduced the amount of sail exposed, letting the boat stand up a little more.

Lazy Jacks are the light lines that run from the mainsail boom to the mast, they catch and control the mainsail when it lowered, rather than have the sail fall all over the cockpit and deck.

Keep asking those questions, how else are you going to learn....

Hope this helps

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...and in addition, the further a keel boat goes over, ther greater the righting moment of the keel trying to get it back up again. This is exactly the opposite of a dinghy where the righting moment is the crew, the further they go over, the less the righting moment of the crew, which is why they are always going over.

Keel boats do go over occasionally, but it's very rare. The reasons will usually be...

- keel dropping off (Tony Bullimore is the most famous at this)

- a huge wave rolling the boat, as found in the Souther Ocean but not very often anywhere near here

- a bad cock up with a spinnaker when racing, in winds that are too much for using a spinnaker, but that boat ahead is, so we must too. This is called a broach, and happens when you lose steering of the boat temporarily. The boat heels right over, the crew fall around all over the place, the spinnaker collapses, the boat comes back up, all the crew look like scared bunnies, and all the spectators cheer.
 
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We never stop learning ...

Sorry I will not give answers to your questions ... but let you into this little 'secret' .....

I learnt to sail as a child on fathers / others yachts. Regularly we set spinnakers etc. without spinnaker poles, without all the ropework etc. like downhauls, uphauls, preventers etc. We learnt to set and control the sail by 'helming' and tending sheets etc.

Later I had a learning curve when I started to race my 1/4'r with all the later additions etc. ...... so who stops learning and who actually is the novice ?????

Nigel - cantankerous old salt !!
 
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Recent PBO ....

Can't remember exact month .... but Hanse was reviewed .....

If I find the edition - I'll make another post !!
 
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