On a red diesel note....

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adamstjohn

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On our way to Ostende on Friday, we were approached by a fast rib with 3 very polite customs guys who asked, as they were doing some training, if they could do a boarding a moving boat exercise, once aboard they wanted to see boat ownership details, think they were satisfied with ssr part 1 doc, insurance, radio licence and passports, they asked about diesel colour and took our word that we were using white. When asked what their reaction would be to red diesel, they said that if recent receipts were available for quantity in tank, they would be fine with that. So the news is, to all you guys going off to the anchor fest, a trip I would dearly love to be making, is that there is no news . Sure it varies from officer to officer but seems to be a more relaxed approach.
 
Were they Belgian customs officiers?
Was Zeewolf around, the black-and-white Customs launch, or Castor or Pollux, the new Navy patrol vessels?
 
I did Ponder both of these points, it does sound naive but I got the impression that if I would have said it was inconvenient as we hadn't hoovered that they would have shrugged their shoulders and roared off, I don't know if that would have resulted in a more formal approach on their side. Think we were saved from what they described as a 'rummages' by the rain which was coming, they were keen to get going. I would have asked for I d at that request but as I say, they were very nice, not forcefull and we're filling in paperwork with details.
They did point vaguely to what they described as their 'mothership' but we didn't really look, I suppose we could have looked at the ais but were keen to get back on course and get in. Just prior to that, motor sailing through the anchorage , a large dolphin appeared and swam alongside, leaping out of the water and making our day, it spent only a couple of mins with us but was lovely to see.
 
adamstjohn said:
On our way to Ostende on Friday, we were approached by a fast rib with 3 very polite customs guys who asked, as they were doing some training, if they could do a boarding a moving boat exercise, once aboard they wanted to see boat ownership details, think they were satisfied with ssr part 1 doc, insurance, radio licence and passports, they asked about diesel colour and took our word that we were using white. When asked what their reaction would be to red diesel, they said that if recent receipts were available for quantity in tank, they would be fine with that. So the news is, to all you guys going off to the anchor fest, a trip I would dearly love to be making, is that there is no news . Sure it varies from officer to officer but seems to be a more relaxed approach.
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Could you repost to the sticky above please?
 
For anyone concerned about red diesel in Holland...
We were visited twice by NL customs in IJmuiden and then Delfzijl. On neither occasion were they the slightest bit interested in diesel. We use white diesel anyway, but the Dutch customs wanted to look at our ships papers - that's all.
 
sailorman said:
They are still using what we have
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Yes but my point was 20 years ago there was a significantly lower bio fuel or FAME content in road fuel. Throughout the EU the percentage has risen dramatically over relatively recent years.

Now, the effects of FAME are debateable but there are those who are insistent that over long periods they do have a detrimental effect on rubber pipes & seals etc, even in the long term it's lubricity, as such these people have a preference to use a FAME free supply of diesel (or rather gas oil) ... you will not get that from a road fuel supplier.

Of course this is all conjecture and as with all things there are believers and nay-sayers, I was merely making a point as to some peoples possible preference to use red over white fuel. ;)
 
tugger said:
Yes but my point was 20 years ago there was a significantly lower bio fuel or FAME content in road fuel. Throughout the EU the percentage has risen dramatically over relatively recent years.

Now, the effects of FAME are debateable but there are those who are insistent that over long periods they do have a detrimental effect on rubber pipes & seals etc, even in the long term it's lubricity, as such these people have a preference to use a FAME free supply of diesel (or rather gas oil) ... you will not get that from a road fuel supplier.

Of course this is all conjecture and as with all things there are believers and nay-sayers, I was merely making a point as to some peoples possible preference to use red over white fuel. ;)
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The Continentals have on option but to use white with bio
 
sailorman said:
The Continentals have on option but to use white with bio
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Absolutely... I wasn't arguing the point... my initial comment was just an addition as to possible reasons why people (with the assumption everyone was referring to UK users who do have the choice)
might not want to use white road diesel

sailorman said:
the price differential is now bugger all, its ease of supply that is the issue for larger volume users
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Champagne Murphy said:
Also ease of delivery. Lugging 60l out to a swinging mooring in jerry cans would be a life threatening experience
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tugger said:
and willingness to use road diesel with FAME additives.
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Ali-alshira said:
For anyone concerned about red diesel in Holland...
We were visited twice by NL customs in IJmuiden and then Delfzijl. On neither occasion were they the slightest bit interested in diesel. We use white diesel anyway, but the Dutch customs wanted to look at our ships papers - that's all.
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On our visit last year they did ask what type of fuel we use - I replied Diesel, knowing where this was going!, and was asked what type. When I replied pink they wanted to see the receipts which I had showing the 60/40 split and they were happy. They also wanted proof of VAT payment on the boat.
 
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