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Well, I followed the recommendation here to use the above when fitting the new loo... What a revelation! It slipped onto the seacock tails Sooooo Easily! Can do no more than thoroughly recommend it.

I have only two slight downside observations I have, is that the OD is quite a lot larger, so you need to use hose clips the next size up, and the rubber finish, makes it a bit of a bugger to feed through behind cupboards etc., but having said that, I'd NEVER go back to the old white stuff again.


An observation on the statement Vyv made in previous heads threads, he is absolutely right, the inlet hose was not scaled at all, the outlet one was, and a lovely coffee brown colour at that, although only a mm or so thick.
 
Gladys said:
An observation on the statement Vyv made in previous heads threads, he is absolutely right, the inlet hose was not scaled at all, the outlet one was, and a lovely coffee brown colour at that, although only a mm or so thick.
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Doing significantly more pumps will mean that you will not get calcite forming in the pipes again. We have a mandatory 30 pumps per pee.

Regards Captain Bligh
 
Gladys said:
Well, I followed the recommendation here to use the above when fitting the new loo... What a revelation! It slipped onto the seacock tails Sooooo Easily! Can do no more than thoroughly recommend it.

I have only two slight downside observations I have, is that the OD is quite a lot larger, so you need to use hose clips the next size up, and the rubber finish, makes it a bit of a bugger to feed through behind cupboards etc., but having said that, I'd NEVER go back to the old white stuff again.


An observation on the statement Vyv made in previous heads threads, he is absolutely right, the inlet hose was not scaled at all, the outlet one was, and a lovely coffee brown colour at that, although only a mm or so thick.
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I re-hosed both my heads last year with the rubbery grey stuff which was indeed tricky to manouvre through the holes in my mouldings .... but needed a final 1m of 19mm hose to finish the job. I ordered another metre from ASAP but just could not get it through the moulding. I was non-plussed until I measured the OD and found that although it was the same 19mm ID it was a few mm greater OD than the previous batch, even though it looked the same until I put them side-by-side.

I emailed ASAP and they sent me another metre of the original 19mm hose. I've no idea why there are two OD of identical hose with the same ID but there you go.

I've still got the metre of larger OD stuff on the boat!

Richard
 
Chris_Robb said:
Doing significantly more pumps will mean that you will not get calcite forming in the pipes again. We have a mandatory 30 pumps per pee.

Regards Captain Bligh
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At my age, 30 pumps per pee would mean i'd be ready for my next pee before the first case cle of pumping was completed, i could end up being locked n the heads compartmenr for an entire cruise.

I notice SCGR 1234 has increased the pump rate to 40, i stand less chance of going overboard whilst having a wee than i do of dying due to dehydration whilst pumping out the bog.
 
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sgr143 said:
We run at at 40 ppp. The heads don't smell and I want to keep it that way! Suppressing calcite build up is a nice bonus.
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It's good advice to pump copiously but unfortunately it results in the holding tank filling with (mostly) seawater in a very short time when we are anchored anchored or berthed. Sometimes we just have to accept that salts are going to form and clean out the hose from time to time.
 
vyv_cox said:
It's good advice to pump copiously but unfortunately it results in the holding tank filling with (mostly) seawater in a very short time when we are anchored anchored or berthed.
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Too true ...... which inevitably results in the "getting up at 3:00am and opening the toilet seacocks" scenario.

Let's just hope that no-one in the anchorage has decided to go for a very early morning swim. :ambivalence:

Richard
 
Faith is a tremendously powerful force and I'm sure that if you never stopped pumping you'd never have calcite formation.
I prefer, however, to use a more objective measure - how many pumps to totally evacuate toilet and completely flush through the outlet pipe.
In the case of my toilet it's 10 strokes - with Chris Robb's labyrinthine system it may well be 20/30/40....
However any hope of totally eliminating calcite formation is, IMHO, pie-in-the-sky. So I regularly use sulphamic acid when on the boat and take off my pipe and clear it of all deposits, every 5 years. Leave it longer and you won't break up the old deposit and you'll have to replace the pipe.
Don't know about dehydration, I'd suggest that what doesn't kill makes you stronger - in my case another stroke would probably intervene..
With 2 diuretics a morning I need to visit the heads every 20' mornings, extending to 90' during the day @ night to 210'.
 
I just bought some hose from ASAP for the same job. It was a bugger to bend as overly reinforced for the purpose .

Sometimes I wonder if a cassette-based head wouldn't be a better idea. Somewhere in-between a fixed holding tank and a PortPotti. Obviously #1 only...
 
Our toilet outlet is ridiculously convoluted, partly because of the inclusion of diverter valves and extra hose to allow diversion to a "black" tank, if ever desired, (never so far in ten years), and partly because although the toilet is to port, the outlet is on starboard, and much further aft. It comes to just over 6m.

After a complete blockage a few years ago, which was cleared with some difficulty, using a flexible "snake" and brick cleaner, we now give it at least 40 complete pump strokes, and have had no further problems.

My wife gets jealous that I can, if the conditions are suitable, pee over the side. :D
 
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vyv_cox said:
It's good advice to pump copiously but unfortunately it results in the holding tank filling with (mostly) seawater in a very short time when we are anchored anchored or berthed. Sometimes we just have to accept that salts are going to form and clean out the hose from time to time.
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Two heads; one through the holding tank, one not (which is pee only)
 
It's 7 strokes (full up and down ones) per meter outlet hose on my Jabsco manual toilet, according to the manual. So my toilet has a strict 15 pump policy, because it has 2m of outlet hose plus a little bit for the length of the seacock and hosetail.

Also, last time I saw the cheapest of malt vinegars on sale (29p per 0.5 liter, or was it 26p) I stuck my arm in the shelf and scooped it all in the shopping basket, which got me some puzzled looks from fellow shoppers. Poured it down the toilet, pumped my 15 strokes and kept filling up until the hose was full of vinegar, closed the seacock and let it stew for an hour. Pump went markedly easier after that, which either means the hose had its full inner diameter again, or the pump seals had disintegrated :eek: - they hadn't, it pumps fine and no mingling of intake and outlet fluids appears. So hooray for reading the manual and for vinegar on sale.
 
Yngmar said:
It's 7 strokes (full up and down ones) per meter outlet hose on my Jabsco manual toilet, according to the manual. So my toilet has a strict 15 pump policy, because it has 2m of outlet hose plus a little bit for the length of the seacock and hosetail.

Also, last time I saw the cheapest of malt vinegars on sale (29p per 0.5 liter, or was it 26p) I stuck my arm in the shelf and scooped it all in the shopping basket, which got me some puzzled looks from fellow shoppers. Poured it down the toilet, pumped my 15 strokes and kept filling up until the hose was full of vinegar, closed the seacock and let it stew for an hour. Pump went markedly easier after that, which either means the hose had its full inner diameter again, or the pump seals had disintegrated :eek: - they hadn't, it pumps fine and no mingling of intake and outlet fluids appears. So hooray for reading the manual and for vinegar on sale.
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Whenever we leave the boat 2.5 litres of white vinegar is poured into the bowl and pumped out untill the level is to the narrowing of the bowl/outlet and the outlet seacock is then turned off.

It gently bubbles as it disolves the calcite build up-this can be clearly seen.

I get 20 litres of white vinegar from ebay delivered very cheaply. We use about 7.5 litres per year.

White vinegar keeps the bowl and pipes clean and unlike my experience with malt, the inside does not smell like a chippy's....................
 
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