Oh no the loo broke!!

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Having just moved my new Sadler 26 from Dartmouth to Poole in snow and winds up to F7 I am deligted with the way she performed. The only real problem was that the toilet packed up. Basically the old boy needs replacing! So are there any knowledgable forumites who know whether a straightforward replacement can be done on a "Brydon Boy" loo with perhaps a Jabsco or something similar. My main criteria is ease of installation, I am thinking particularly of the mounting. I will do the pipes etc while I am at it. Any help or comments appreciated!
 
these are pretty straightforward:

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This was Peggie Hall's reply about 2½ years ago to a question about the Brydon Boy [ QUOTE ]
The Brydon Boy was a Canadian version of the Jabsco manual, built in Canada under a licensing agreement. Brydon went out of business in the early 1980s...no hardware parts have been available for more than 10 years. Jabsco did offer a service kit for it, but even discontinued that about 3 years ago...so it can no longer be repaired or even maintained, 'cuz no parts or spares are still available for at all any more.

It was a very well made toilet...far better and more durable than anything in its price range made today. But everything has a lifespan...and I'm afraid it's time for a new toilet.


[/ QUOTE ] so perhaps the current Jabsco or similar toilets are the ones to look at. However if you can fit a Lavac along with the pipe loops it requires you will not regret it Lavac
 
You will probably end up replacing the pipework, as it seems to go hard with age, and getting it on and off spigots without resorting to unnecessary violence becomes impossible. If you do, I would recommend you buy Vetus hose, or similar quality (i.e. expensive) stuff, not the cheaper unbranded stuff from the chandleries. You will still need to warm the ends in hot water (and warm the seacock with a hot air gun) but you might still have some skin left on your knuckles at the end of it.
 
About the Lavac. I agree they are very reliable and practical. But if you have children you better take a Jabsco. I had 3 lavacs on my boat and changed 2 of them for Jabsco. Since you have to close the toilet to get a vacuum you can't see what's going on. So most of the time children don't pump enough to empty the toilet. The same goes for guests not used to Lavac. And it takes a minute or 2 before you can open the toilet again. And also not unimportant you can buy 3 to 4 jabsco's for one lavac.
 
Another toilet question. With the Jabsco, the tech docs I've seen show a large loop in the pipes above the waterline. My Centaur doesn't seem to have room for such a loop - does that mean I'll be taking on water if I install without the loops?
 
It depends on your waterline level. If the waterline is above the level in the bowl, you run the risk of it syphoning back in, if not, you should be OK. (remembering that your sailing waterline will affect it too!)
 
As I understand it you run the risk of taking on water if you dont close the seacock's when the toilet is not in use, particulary if there is any seaway. We have this probelm if we bump thorugh the waves and the seacocks are not shut.
 
I have a Sadler 26 with a Jabsco that was installed before I bought the boat in 2005. I don't think there were any particular difficulties in the installation. Are you aware of the Mike Lucas Sailing web site that has a Sadler discussion forum? You might find some help there.
Link: www.mikelucasyachting.co.uk/

I'm going to the boat tomorrow so if a photo of my Jabsco installation (unoccupied) would help please PM me.
Morgan
 
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