numptys in fog

[dave p]

I was out yesterday fishing in the east solent in the worst fog I have been out in for a while. about 1pm I moved fishing marks towards CHICHESTER HARBOUR and I couldn't see much more than 50ft ,when i was about 1.5 miles off chichester a boat came on my radar screen coming from the solent at a rate of knots ,as he was getting closing I was changing down the range on my radar and he was going to be close to me ,when it looked like he was right on top of me on the screen I slowed down the boat so I was just in gear and sure enough he past just in front of me about 50ft out ,the boat was a white targa and he was doing at least 25 knots . how is he meant to see pot bouys or small boats that don't show up on radar at 25 knots in thick fog.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Yes, it sounds like the other boat was being driven by a knob but there are 2 points to make really.

Was it wise to be out in the Solent fishing when you knew it was going to be foggy?

Second point is Rule 19d of the ColRegs which states

A vessel which detects by radar alone the presence of another vessel shall determine if a close-quarters situation is developing and/or risk of collision exists. If so, she shall take avoiding action in ample time

Sounds very much like you didn't take avoiding action in ample time. There is an onus on both boats to take avoiding action in restricted viz

 

[dave p]

To answer your points
first when I left my mooring at 8am in was bright sunshine and the fog didn't appear until 9.30am and I was anchored on the bullocks patch well away from the solent.

Second ,I knew where he was all the time as I was tracking him on the radar screen that's why I slow down when he got close .

I was talking about his speed and the fact he wasn't far out from Chichester entrance with boats going in and out in thick fog

 

[CLB]

Was you making the appropriate sound signals? A good radar will pick up pot buoys so he may well have seen you.

 

[sailorman]

To answer your points
first when I left my mooring at 8am in was bright sunshine and the fog didn't appear until 9.30am and I was anchored on the bullocks patch well away from the solent.

Second ,I knew where he was all the time as I was tracking him on the radar screen that's why I slow down when he got close .

I was talking about his speed and the fact he wasn't far out from Chichester entrance with boats going in and out in thick fog

was he transmitting AIS, did you get the name

 

[omega2]

When another vessel is coming at you best to steer at him, then at least you will have a course of action to take, rather than letting the idiot make up your mind for you, unless of course you are restricted in some way. Do not mention fishing on here Dave you know it will invoke a bad reaction. LOL

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

When another vessel is coming at you best to steer at him, then at least you will have a course of action to take, rather than letting the idiot make up your mind for you, unless of course you are restricted in some way. Do not mention fishing on here Dave you know it will invoke a bad reaction. LOL

That is possibly in contravention of ColRegs. Rule 19d again

provided that when such action consists of an alteration of course, so far as possible the following shall be avoided:

(ii) an alteration of course towards a vessel abeam or abaft the beam

 

[dave p]

When another vessel is coming at you best to steer at him, then at least you will have a course of action to take, rather than letting the idiot make up your mind for you, unless of course you are restricted in some way. Do not mention fishing on here Dave you know it will invoke a bad reaction. LOL

Alright john best post some fishing reports then with loads of fish lol

 

[Billy Blue]

I don't think any vessel proceeding at 25kts in thick fog in such an area would be deemed to be going at a safe speed.
Rule 19
" Every "vessel shall proceed at a safe speed adapted to the prevailing circumstances and conditions in restricted visibility".

 

[omega2]

That is possibly in contravention of ColRegs. Rule 19d again

Not if it's coming head on! and the action taken wakes the idiot up!!

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Not if it's coming head on! and the action taken wakes the idiot up!!

OK remind me not to go boating anywhere near you then

 

[omega2]

OK remind me not to go boating anywhere near you then

That will be nice, as "fishers" we love the solitude.

 

[Piers]

Just in case it helps...

An article I written for two magazines about use of radar is on our website - (http://www.playdeau.com/radar-assisted-collisions-and-marpa/).

The specific about restricted vis is towards the bottom of the page, entitled "Rule 19 of the COLREGs applies when in restricted visibility".

The most important point to remember is that in restricted vis, all the rules change. No stand-on vessel, no give-way vessel, etc.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

The most important point to remember is that in restricted vis, all the rules change. No stand-on vessel, no give-way vessel, etc.

Precisely

 

[omega2]

This was in broad daylight! I shudder to think how you lot would behave in fog??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VHXRYXzEVU

 

[AdeOlly]

first when I left my mooring at 8am in was bright sunshine and the fog didn't appear until 9.30am and I was anchored on the bullocks patch well away from the solent.

One of my favourite marks. Any black bream showing?

 

[dave p]

One of my favourite marks. Any black bream showing?

no mate but wont be long as theres loads being caught in the nets between bullocks and medberry ,theres still codling about half mile east of bullocks and east of the nab