Not exactly boaty.........

[Solitaire]

but I'd appreciate a wider audience. My trusty Jeep Cherokee 2.5 TD is now up to 120k miles - I have recently replaced the 4 heads so it's running well. I have been been offered the chance of a Grand Cherokee Ltd with the 3.1 TD engine. Anybody have/had one and what are the drawbacks on the engine. The car itself is spotless and is below average mileage for it's year.

Ta ever so.

 

[oceanfroggie]

What year is it? If it's the current GC model launched in 2005 then the 3.0 CRD diesel engine is excellent, great torque, accelaration 0-60 <9secs, and very smooth and quite. The previous model had an excellent 2.7 CRD diesel engine, but the earlier versions had an awful 3.1 diesel engine that ran like a tractor, noisey as heck and dog slow accelaration. So if it is the 2.7 CRD or 3.0 CRD I would highly recommend, but not the older 3.1 tractor. Driven all CGs including the petrol V8 rocket.

 

[Solitaire]

It's 2001 - I ran it tonight and it did not sound nearly as noisy as my 2,5 TD. But while I like the Jeep - I had a 4 litre before I got the the TD - I do worry a bit about the engines in earlier models, as my bank balance testified too earlier this year.

 

[powerskipper]

and how many miles to the gallon then, not Eco friendly me thinks /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[ggt9]

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I have recently replaced the 4 heads

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In a car? Why not just bucket and chuck it... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Lakesailor]

I had a 4 litre and apart from the fuel consumption it was great. The outgoings on fuel are actually not as bad a depreciation can be on BMWs etc but it just feels like a waste of money.
The CRD diesels are good but earlier ones are from a time when the US market didn't understand diesel and they just bought-in antique rubbish.

 

[BrendanS]

I had a 4 litre as well, but that's what they do well. Diesels are an afterthought for most US manufacturers, unlike European makers which create diesels of distinction

 

[gjgm]

have to agree with O/F. The Merc engine is superb, but that is only on the newer models, but the GCherokee is an excellent car-way better than the cherokee, or the truelu appaling Wrangler- though the older version off road suspension can sometimes make it feel it has a mind of its own on the road.
Dont think the 3.1 is a disaster, but its nowhere near as good.
Not sure what you mean by being offered one. No shortage of cars for sale, so unless its a steal and a full service history, cant see any reason to focus on this particular car?

 

[Solitaire]

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Not sure what you mean by being offered one. No shortage of cars for sale, so unless its a steal and a full service history, cant see any reason to focus on this particular car?

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I was not actually looking as such - just a client approached me. I know there are a lot of cars for sale of that model. I was really only asking the question re the engine. As it happens the price is not that competitive given what I could buy through the open market, so it will need a bit of negotiating if I was to move forward. It does have a full service history, both the book being stamped and all the bills associated with it.

I just happen to like Jeeps, another client has a rather newer 3.0 CRD which he has approached me about, but I think it will be out of my price range - it's only a year old and has 11k miles on the clock. I don't earn the dosh I used to earn in the ad business - but that is my choice. My "office" now has a lot more to commend it /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif but I need a 4 x 4 for the job really. Towing boats about etc.

 

[lovezoo]

For what its worth What Car magazine did a group test on 4x4s in November 2005. The jeep GC 3.0 CRD came sixth (and last). the new Discovery came 1st. This is what they said about the jeep:

"FOR -- Cheap to buy or lease; well equipped;bags of image and performance.

AGAINST --Lots of road engine and wind noise; shabby handling; poor cabin quality; heavy depreciation

VERDICT-- Its well equipped and cheap, but you'll certainly know it by the poor quality cabin and the tiring drive."

Any complaints about this review to WhatCar, not me thanks.

 

[oceanfroggie]

I've had CG's, RR and Mercs and for me the CG was the pick of the bunch. Since 2002 all their diesel engines have been Merc CRDs. Don't know what model they reviewed, mine were all cream leather and polished wood everywhere and every extra you can think of as standard. Far superior finish to the Merc. The RR was nice but over priced and under performed, but again that's not why any of us bought RRs was it? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Mag reports tend to be subjective, a german mag will favour german products as do english and us mags favour their own, also mag reviews often biased towards largest advertisers. I do like the RR HSE sport, the new model with the V8 diesel, the V6 is a slug. The thing about the CG is you get all the extras as standard. Anyway each on to their own as long as yer happy.

 

[DAKA]

Be careful where you park it, there are a growing number people who are appalled by the use of 4WD vehicles in urban areas, unfortunately they have no way of distinguishing between a visiting farmer and an urban dick head

 

[lovezoo]

The pic looks like the driver tried off-roading over the kerb at around 50mph.

Other than that nice looking Shogun/Pajero.

 

[DAKA]

No the damage to the wheels only occurred after the driver tried to move it a few yards, possibly even half a wheel turn.

A puncture in a 4WD can and does cause that amount of damage.

If you do get a tyre let down you need to jack it up so the tyre has a chance to seal or any air pumped in will escape.

It is the squashed tyre that distorts the wheel rim as it rolls.