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I have a twin burner on board but have only used it once...it did the job but
i haven't much experience of it so....
How do they compare with gas in speed?
and are they more expensive to run than gas?
and wheres the cheapest for meths?
and should i sell it and get a gas cooker instead?...:)
 
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Niander said:
I have a twin burner on board but have only used it once...it did the job but
i haven't much experience of it so....
How do they compare with gas in speed?
and are they more expensive to run than gas?
and wheres the cheapest for meths?
and should i sell it and get a gas cooker instead?...:)
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in my fascinating film about lighting an Origo - 450 views and rising by the day - the origo boiled a pint in seven minutes

I think they are definately cheaper to run than gas and they work in the winter time

gas is useless on those cold crisp winter mornings

you can buy meths by the gallon on-line

comes from Aylesbury

might as well try the Origo

I have been a long time fan of the Trangia and this is better

what I miss is a grill - which is a wonderful thing to have on a boat and opens up a whole new area of cuisine

Dylan
 
Niander said:
I have a twin burner on board but have only used it once...it did the job but
i haven't much experience of it so....
How do they compare with gas in speed?
and are they more expensive to run than gas?
and wheres the cheapest for meths?
and should i sell it and get a gas cooker instead?...:)
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Sorry cannot answer the first question although Dylan has timed how long it took to boil a kettle.

You can work out the relative costs if you look up the refill prices for Calor propane, Calor butane, Camping Gas and gas cartridges and the price of meths given that the net calorific values are:

45,750 kJ/kg for butane
46,350 kJ/kg for propane
23,670 kJ/kg for methylated spirit

I'd guess the cheapest place for meths will be from an ebay seller.

Try the Origo. Installing a gas system is not a 5 minute job and not cheap either if you have to buy a commercially made gas bottle locker
 
dylanwinter said:
what I miss is a grill - which is a wonderful thing to have on a boat and opens up a whole new area of cuisine
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I rarely use the grill on KS - the only thing it's useful for is toast, and I can live without that. The oven, however, is vital. Baking supermarket part-baked baguettes, cooking sausages while sailing (bung them in a tray with the fag-end of the bread to soak up surplus fat), heating up pre-prepared meals (whether home-cooked or supermarket-bought). Pizza, from time to time. Even a roast chicken once (my mate did that for lunch on a day-sail as the forecast was light and the sailing boring).

Pish to your single meths tin :)

Pete
 
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prv said:
I rarely use the grill on KS - the only thing it's useful for is toast, and I can live without that. The oven, however, is vital. Baking supermarket part-baked baguettes, cooking sausages while sailing (bung them in a tray with the fag-end of the bread to soak up surplus fat), heating up pre-prepared meals (whether home-cooked or supermarket-bought). Pizza, from time to time. Even a roast chicken once (my mate did that for lunch on a day-sail as the forecast was light and the sailing boring).

Pish to your single meths tin :)

Pete
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no room for an oven

It would be nice to have one

one of the things I like about meths is that I know exactly how much I have left

and Vic... thanks for the stats - you are one amazing bloke

can I make you head of maintenance at KTL industries

Dylan
 
dylanwinter said:
I think they are definately cheaper to run than gas and they work in the winter time

gas is useless on those cold crisp winter mornings


what I miss is a grill - which is a wonderful thing to have on a boat and opens up a whole new area of cuisine

Dylan
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But have you actually worked out the relative costs. There is a big difference to take into account between Calor refills , Camping gas refills and cartridges of gas

Propane is effective at any temperature you are likely to encounter! Effective at much lower temperatures than meths will be I suspect.

The grill is one of the main reasons I use gas.

Best way of doing toast*. Grilling the best way of cooking sausages, bacon, gammon steaks, even chops in the absence of an oven.

* You'll never do cheese on toast with one of those things that stand on a gas or alcohol burner ;)


can I make you head of maintenance at KTL industries
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No I retired from all that sort of thing 20 years ago
 
prv said:
The oven, however, is vital.

Pish to your single meths tin :)

Pete
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Perhaps not vital but very good to have.
I do miss not having an oven on my own boat having become used to having one on the boat I crewed.
 
VicS said:
Grilling the best way of cooking sausages, bacon, gammon steaks, even chops in the absence of an oven.
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This is certainly true at home. But the grill in my boat cooker (standard Plastimo thing as used by everybody and his dog) is not really up to the job, and looks like a nightmare to clean after having fat spitting inside it. Possibly not helped by the tiny (almost certainly not original) tinny grill pan I inherited.

Actually, tell a lie, I did once grill lamb steaks with garlic and rosemary in it, on the beach at Bembridge.

Pete
 
prv said:
This is certainly true at home. But the grill in my boat cooker (standard Plastimo thing as used by everybody and his dog) is not really up to the job, and looks like a nightmare to clean after having fat spitting inside it. Possibly not helped by the tiny (almost certainly not original) tinny grill pan I inherited.

Actually, tell a lie, I did once grill lamb steaks with garlic and rosemary in it, on the beach at Bembridge.

Pete
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Grills on these cookers are not good I must admit just marginally better than no grill. No idea what modern domestic ones are like. The only domestic gas grill I've used was on the pre-war gas cooker my parents had when I was a kid ... town gas of course , not lpg, not even natural gas.
 
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Start every trip full

Apart from safety, which must be better for meths vs pressurised gas, one of the advantages is that you can start every trip full of fuel - with gas (which we use when camping - Camping Gaz 904 2Kg refillables - outside the tent) you always have to carry a spare bottle, and the level is difficult to monitor. I really dislike disposable gas canisters, so...

Despite the c@@p build quality of my Origo I'd replace with similar.
 
maxcampbell said:
Apart from safety, which must be better for meths vs pressurised gas, one of the advantages is that you can start every trip full of fuel - with gas (which we use when camping - Camping Gaz 904 2Kg refillables - outside the tent) you always have to carry a spare bottle, and the level is difficult to monitor. I really dislike disposable gas canisters, so...

Despite the c@@p build quality of my Origo I'd replace with similar.
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If you wish to monitor how much gas you have, you can get quite accurate digital spring balances from eBay.
Weigh the full bottle, and see how much you have used.
It would also provide another check for leaking over time while you are away from the boat.
 
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