viago
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lol when you put it like that tranona you got me thinking £50 is peanuts. still, it seems that when you go up to that size money is syphoned off faster than my water filling hose could manage!-/
no water tank will fit. suggestions please
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pyrojames
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Try Jay Wolfe Metal Works (www.jaywolfe.co.uk). Best quote I have had for tanks. Has made 5 for me now. Diesel tank in the pipeline
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5 liter orange juice containers (like the screen wash containers) stored around the yacht. I sailed transatlantic with a bilge full of such containers as my supplementary water storage. They fitted neatly between the stringers.
Doesn't get much cheaper than that.
Tranona
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Thanks for that, but I got the old one repaired locally - usual problem with metal tanks, particularly 316, where one of the welds had corroded. Person who had installed it helpfully bonded it in with foam. Took a week on and off to get out.
Would never based on my previous experiences have a metal tank, so my quote was from Tek Tanks who have made tanks for me in the past, and did include all the fittings.
Repair and modification to the existing tank cost £150 but I have installed now in such a way that it is easily removable when it fails again.
ukmctc
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Flexi tank, £30 for 50 ltr, comes complete simple and easy to fit.
viago
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thanks for the post. tranona thinks that the size tank i can fit may not be worth having, so your suggestion seems a great low-cost option. maybe i should just install a 20l tank and keep 5l containers to decant to the main tank.
this has a lot of advantages: not having too much standing water around growing bugs, cheaper to install, easier to get water on board boat if on a deep water mooring, can still use a functioning sink (not sure about waste water yet - omg is there no end
what do i do with the waste? duct it into the toilet pipe? dont sound to good!
viago
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thanks. where? sounds getter than £53. saves a lot of time and time is money.
awol
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drill a hole in the bottom to let it out. fit a blakes cock for only £120 or so though a plastic spigot is cheaper but may not conform to your risk adverse mentality. a plastic basin is cheaper.
viago
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lol. ill get my black and decker
sarabande
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Viago
will any of these collapsible ones suffice ? With a big filler and a small outlet, it might be adpated to your space ? Several cheap options there.
http://www.rainbowconversions.co.uk/Equipment/Water/water.htm
will any of these collapsible ones suffice ? With a big filler and a small outlet, it might be adpated to your space ? Several cheap options there.
http://www.rainbowconversions.co.uk/Equipment/Water/water.htm
Tranona
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There is a lot to be said on a small boat for having portable containers and a plastic bowl for a sink. No need for drains, piping etc. Just when you get to the size of boat that regularly has 4-6 on board, pressurized water sytems, calorifiers for hot water and two showers (one inside and the other out) and use it in hot climates, you find 250 litres capacity is not excessive!
BTW just filled my repaired tank today and tested the new piping runs - no leaks!
Goldie
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Many long keelers have space for a flexible tank under the saloon sole - does yours? The Halmatic 30 we had, was originally fitted with a 30 gallon flexible tank down there. When it developed a leak, we replaced it with one nearly twice the size!
viago
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thanks very much. im sure that when i get my head around this problem then this looks like a great resource.
currently, im looking at adapting an under-bed storage box as my tank. the cost of the box is £3.49 and is 20 litre. of course there will be the added cost of an inlet and outlet connection which may make this option less appealing.
reginaldon
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It looks as though he's carrying the family tradition of being a tightwad forward - and he's not a Yorkshireman!
viago
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good job you didnt say scottish or you might have incurred the wrath of a particularly vocal clan!
viago
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are you sure? 60 gallon! thats what, 270 litres? well an extra 1/4 ton of ballast wont hurt. and no, i aint got that space.
for 27 foot the boat has surprisingly litte useful space compared to modern boats of similar size. its a lot narrower, but im led to believe that its shape makes it a good boat in a heavy sea. as pointed out earlier in this thread i am a touch risk adverse which means i am unlikely to benefit greatly from that particular attribute. for similar reasons i am not overly keen to have a large amount of standing water in a tank which may be used for drinking.
thanks for the post.
viago
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ok, well ive removed the original 3/2" diameter hose from my boat, acquired all my connections, bought a 40 litre tank, and, guess what, im way over budget.
to date, the budget is £12 for the tank etc., plus £5 for the new hose.
ive learned that using non-food grade plastic may release unexpected flavourers from the water and thus need a filter system. here's the thing, in order to effectively filter the water i need at least 20 psi to do so. ok, so i need a better pump but i also get a better system in that: i will no longer have to buy bottled water for drinking, i can run multiple outlets including an outside connection for showering and cleaning away fish guts and i can plumb for a subsequent hot water system.
this really hurts, £40 for the pump plus £27 for the separate drinking water main. it will take a while to recoup the extra £47 (£20 budgeted for the original pump), but recoup i will. as im running a pressurised system i will be able to plumb all the connections into the lid of my new tank, thereby, reducing the risk of leakage from my suspect plumbing skills.
i am yet to conquer the question of grey water but am leaning towards a holding tank for the galley and connecting the, yet to be considered, heads sink directly to the flush mechanism.
any suggestions/comments will be seriously considered.
to date, the budget is £12 for the tank etc., plus £5 for the new hose.
ive learned that using non-food grade plastic may release unexpected flavourers from the water and thus need a filter system. here's the thing, in order to effectively filter the water i need at least 20 psi to do so. ok, so i need a better pump but i also get a better system in that: i will no longer have to buy bottled water for drinking, i can run multiple outlets including an outside connection for showering and cleaning away fish guts and i can plumb for a subsequent hot water system.
this really hurts, £40 for the pump plus £27 for the separate drinking water main. it will take a while to recoup the extra £47 (£20 budgeted for the original pump), but recoup i will. as im running a pressurised system i will be able to plumb all the connections into the lid of my new tank, thereby, reducing the risk of leakage from my suspect plumbing skills.
i am yet to conquer the question of grey water but am leaning towards a holding tank for the galley and connecting the, yet to be considered, heads sink directly to the flush mechanism.
any suggestions/comments will be seriously considered.
viago
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tank sorted, thanks guys and gals for your imput, now to securing it in the port hand quarter birth space.
should i use timber battening or would it be better to use expanding foam?
ive read that builders foam will act as a sponge, can this be avoided by squirting it into a large plastic bag?
i have loads of 4x2 tannalised and can secure well but the subsequent removal of the framework would prove difficult should the tank prove u s.
i would like to thank plymouth marine bazaar and aquafax for their help so far.
should i use timber battening or would it be better to use expanding foam?
ive read that builders foam will act as a sponge, can this be avoided by squirting it into a large plastic bag?
i have loads of 4x2 tannalised and can secure well but the subsequent removal of the framework would prove difficult should the tank prove u s.
i would like to thank plymouth marine bazaar and aquafax for their help so far.
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prv
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Sadly not - I tried to do exactly this to hold my new fuel tank in place, and it was a complete failure. The foam didn't set, or even expand much, inside the bag.
Pete
viago
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thanks pete, youve saved another dodgy idea going wrong for me. looks like a days sawing and screwing tomorrow, or might wait until my pump arrives. ive plenty else to consider such as the heads sink that the puritan is insisting on!
spotted a nice stainless dogs bowl yesterday! £3, hmm.
spotted a nice stainless dogs bowl yesterday! £3, hmm.