No Water At Yarmouth IOW

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davidwhuk1

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Health and Safety has struck Yarmouth Harbour IOW. Yes the Harbour provides water taps but now it has removed ALL the hosepipes....so you can no longer fill-up unless you have your own hosepipe - how pathetic. Are we all to be bossed around by these silly jobsworths at HSE?...and shouldn't Yarmouth have a bit more spine?
 
Water hoses are notorious for breeding bugs, when left with water in them and the sun on them, I always run water off a hose before filling my tanks, even through my own hose which I drain and always use for filling my tanks. I agree with Yarmouth harbour and the HSE on this one.
 
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So you have to carry your own hose? Well, so what?

At least the water is free/included in the price. Try the Bahamas, where water costs $0.75 a US gallon.
 
I may be wrong but believe there are now rules about having non-return valves to prevent contamination getting back into the main supply, if these are not present somewhere in the water feed then they must remove the hoses. Possible risk of contamination from hoses dropped in the water?

Hoses are still connected at our marina but I believe there was a need to modify the water pipework back down the line, I'm not sure about this however, just hearsay.

French marinas do not have hoses left connected, so any visitor must carry a hose if they want to fill up. Surely it isn't that much of a hardship to use your own hose? We carry a flat hose in a cassette, it takes up very little space and residual water is squeezed out as it is wound back in, we still run quite a bit through before putting it in the tanks though to get rid of what may have been standing for some time in the marina pipework.
 
They've just done the same at the Marina I use. Has the HM at Yarmouth and my Marina Manager perhaps been on the same course and had the fear of God put into them by some official from some "Office" at a water board, the Environment Agency or the HSE. Why all this activity now, when the regulations were first promulgated in 1999 apparently? Most mysterious, although probably sensible.
 
My marina has also removed hoses. It seems that not even non-return valves are acceptable to the water authorities. The only other solution was to supply the pontoon hoses via an intermediate tank and this was too expensive. All this to prevent sea water being drawn back into the system in the event of low pressure. A flat hose, carried on board and fitted with a hozelock type coupling is the answer but it's annoying.
Morgan
 
You would not have enjoyed mooring a boat in a creek, half a mile from shore and ferrying everything out to the boat in a dinghy then ?
I am not quite a "flat-earther", but I do blame the provision of caravan sites on water (marinas) for the overcrowding of the Solent etc.
I wish H & S would close them all down !
Ken
 
Can't see what your problem is?? just buy a hose half a mile
long then tow it out in your BIG dinghy.You really must think these things thru
 
I kid you not, I even actually considered running a hose a lot further than that, had access to a bunch of hose 500m, very cheap, ie. nowt, but it would float!!! and if sunk, collapse, so went with a watermaker instead. Even thought of getting power out to a mooring aswell. I've had quite a few funny ideas in my time!!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
You are obviously a lateral thinker aqnd a man after my own
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It more likely to be the marina cutting costs or trying to reduce their water bill. There are so many safety laws used incorrectly these days.

The actual regulations state:

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(4) Nothing in these Regulations shall require any person to remove, replace, alter, disconnect or
cease to use any water fitting which was lawfully installed or used, or capable of being used, before 1st
July 1999.

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Which probably means that the marina who sited this as an excuse is breaking the law. The legislation is for new installations.

I would rather see education notices at the gangways than removal of hoses. A hose per boat means that the use is very low and festers for longer. It is better if the marina provides good quality smooth walled hose as it would get flushed more often. Using crimped on hose pipe ends which have a non-return valve would be an improvement. Then we would only need to supply the spray end, stub pipe or whatever. You should not let them hide behind legislation that is not intended for them.

Support safety education not legislation.
 
So how about at Dartmouth Colin, the taps had about a meter of hose on them to allow easy filling of water containers, never any water lurking in them as it always drained out. Hence no problems! What about the hose which leads up to the tap? I still let the tap run for a while before filling the containers.
 
I always allow the water to run for a while, but to be honest, I have a filtration system aboard, which removes nasties, I use that water for drinking etc. But raw water for washing.
 
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(4) Nothing in these Regulations shall require any person to remove, replace, alter, disconnect or
cease to use any water fitting which was lawfully installed or used, or capable of being used, before 1st
July 1999.

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ISTR that check valves on hoses were required previous to this legislation, so that if you had complied with this before the 1999 laws, you are still OK. If not, you have to "leap-frog" up to the current laws. (Memory a bit hazy, & guidance book at work). The concern from this point of view is the possibility of "back siphoning" unclean water into the water distribution network.

Agree that these things are too often folllowed blindly without the application of common sense.

Andy
 
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