No VHF, EPIRB, Flares, Liferaft, Telephones, communication

[ShipsWoofy]

If you set off on the Fastnet with the current forecast this is how you should go.

If you wish to die then so be it, it is your risk. If anyone who is involved gets into trouble because ooh, they are surprised by the stronger winds, even after finding one out of 200 weather sources that gave a glimmer of good news, then tough!

Show us you are all serious and remove any way of contacting people for help before you go, ah, no but yeah but no but yeah, you are like dogs on a lead, no real commitment.

This is making me mad, can you tell? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[sarabande]

FFS ! I did 3 Fastnets in the 60s/70's before we had all this technical support stuff, umpteen radio and satellite systems, GPS, and prior to the big storm, we lost no-one or any boat.

Are you telling us that the new boats aren't capable of riding out a half gale, or that the crews are less skilled and have less seamanship ? Or are you suggesting that the pressures of racing and the desire to get publicity for sponsors overcome prudence and good seamanship ?

I wouldn't even think about racing if I didn't have confidence in the design of the boat, her equipment, and the other crew. Whatever happened to that old Admiralty Instruction "Being in all respects ready for Sea... "?

 

[Bilgediver]

NAh.....that doesn't send you mad....... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

What sends you mad is when those who wanted off cos they ran out of Stugeron ring up the coastguard and asked to be put back on board when the storm passes /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[ShipsWoofy]

I am not telling or expecting anyone not to go, that is the whole point.

But everything is suggesting that even in a well found boat you are going to spent some time emulating a washing machine and cuddling the stanchions looking for answers.

I am saying, that to set off with a lifeline, when you are being told things could get hairy, is taking the piss.

 

[bilbobaggins]

So where can I buy incontinence nappies before tomorrow morning - in XL size?

Seriously though, 'Dogwatch', what on earth is your avatar? The pattern-matching bit of my pea-brain keeps suggesting it's one of those things you find down the back of the couch after one of 'those' parties.....

...And I wish the Rorschasch Test was in colour, too!

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[ShipsWoofy]

It's my celebration of the lounge.

 

[sarabande]

Sorry, slight misunderstanding. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Apologies.

Praps, instead of just completing x hundred sea miles to get a Dazed Kipper award, the RYA should say x hours in a F6, and y hours in a F8, or something. Sort out those people who crew in a fast cat doing 15 knots downwind, from those in a small cruiser flogging along to windward at 3 knots

 

[douglas_family]

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Sort out those people who crew in a fast cat doing 15 knots downwind, from those in a small cruiser flogging along to windward at 3 knots

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are you suggesting that passage planning that has you flogging to windward at 3 knots is a sign of good seamanship if so i'll wave to you in my incompetence as i pass you going the other way at 15 knots! happy sailing /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[webcraft]

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Are you telling us that the new boats aren't capable of riding out a half gale

[/ QUOTE ] If 40 knots - as currently predicted by the Early Severe Weather Warning - is a half gale then I certainly don't want to be out in a whole one.

 

[Danny Jo]

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Seriously though, 'Dogwatch', what on earth is your avatar?

[/ QUOTE ] Bilbo - try again with the pattern making after a stiff whisky. The bit that looks like outrageously coloured underwear with higgledy-piggledy straps is actually a black dog in a life jacket with its legs uppermost. The background is the cover of an oversize Barclays bank cheque book.

The message is "If you are going to sea with a dog, don't bother with the life jacket, 'cos it will cost you a fortune and the dog will drown anyway."

 

[ShipsWoofy]

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Seriously though, 'Dogwatch', what on earth is your avatar?

[/ QUOTE ] Bilbo - try again with the pattern making after a stiff whisky. The bit that looks like outrageously coloured underwear with higgledy-piggledy straps is actually a black dog in a life jacket with its legs uppermost. The background is the cover of an oversize Barclays bank cheque book.

The message is "If you are going to sea with a dog, don't bother with the life jacket, 'cos it will cost you a fortune and the dog will drown anyway."

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The dog was rolling on the beach at Porthmadog

It is not a cheque book nor the Barclay's emblem

 

[Danny Jo]

Nice-looking hound. Apologies for the facetious reference to drowning - my love-hate relationship with Barney (my own faithful, pain-in-the-ass mongrel) occasionally makes me say things I don't mean.

 

[gandy]

I liked the one of the dog staring straight into the lens, with a sort of "I'm completely barking" expression.

 

[charliespan]

Err... Is that a Third Reich eagle and swastika in the background
or have Barclays swung to the extreme right ?

 

[bilbobaggins]

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try again with the pattern making after a stiff whisky

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Right, then! I've now tried the stiff whiskies, and very nice they were, too, on a lovely evening well inland, with the bands of white cirrus in the west slowly fading to pink, then gold.

( Tomorrow's another day, as they say in the Met Office! )

As I read it - "If you are going to sea in a dog, don't bother with the life jacket, 'cos it will cost you a small fortune - and the dog will drown you anyway."

Which specific 'dog' did you have in mind? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm a fan of Arthur Ransome's "If not duffers, won't drown. If duffers, better drowned!", just so no-one falsely labels me as politically korrect!


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[Danny Jo]

Never switch a preposition to get a laugh with. That is something down by which I won't be brought (rolling with laughter, with apologies to W Churchill).

 

[bilbobaggins]

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The dog was rolling on the beach at Porthmadog

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That's a DOG? WTF do you feed it on - Strontium 90?

Oh! I see - it's a kind of Welsh dog...... sort of 'Pimp_my_dog!, eh?

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[ShipsWoofy]

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The dog was rolling on the beach at Porthmadog

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That's a DOG? WTF do you feed it on - Strontium 90?

Oh! I see - it's a kind of Welsh dog...... sort of 'Pimp_my_dog!, eh?

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There are old men in the black country rolling in their graves at their dog being labelled as Welsh! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[bilbobaggins]

I see! That's a dog?

My Lady Eleanor's top trials collie used to roll in fox-snit, then stake out the fox' lairs, waiting for a foxy encounter

What's yours up to? Cockles? Scallops?

And, as for the Hi-Visibility Elfin Safeti vest, the rabbits will be laffin' their cox off.....


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