NMea2000 to Seatalk converter or similar.

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I have just bought a sea talk converter to get all my older instruments into my new Raymarine ElementS Plotter.

I think I now understand it all, I do however have one input whiny is NMEA 200 as native. Is anyone on here an expert as to how I can get this in to the system.

I don't want to start ripping out and installing new until I have the answers.

Thanks

I shall begin a circuit schematic tomorrow (or later today which I can upload if that makes it easier to advise me.

I have been retired for 10 years as an IT Geek and previously in Architecture, so I have some 'in built' knowledge of systems but am no expert and this feels like it is stretching me at present.

All Help gratefully received.

Andy
 
Raymarine talk about seatalkng - which is nmea 2000 but with a special plug.

So you need the Raymarine SeatalkNG/Seatalk1 adaptor and a NMEA 2000 / Seatalk NG Cables

It doesn't come cheap.

In UK Hudson Marine are always very knowledgeable and helpful
 
Thanks Bedouin,

Yup I bought the ElementS from them and the Converter I have now.

I didn't want to become a nuisance so I thought I'd ask you folk first. There is a mass of knowledge here which has always been very useful in the past.
 
andythefiddler said:
Thanks Bedouin,

Yup I bought the ElementS from them and the Converter I have now.

I didn't want to become a nuisance so I thought I'd ask you folk first. There is a mass of knowledge here which has always been very useful in the past.
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Most of my knowledge on this comes from them - and having done it myself following their instructions
 
Very likely I have misunderstood your question so apologies in advance if that is so but the Stng - Seatalk convertor has 5 ports - 2 blue ones either end for the backbone connections, the middle yellow port into which a cable runs to your first Seatalk instrument (or a D244 connector block) and then daisy chains up to a further 4 Seatalk devices. The remaining 2 white ports on the convertor are for connecting Stng devices or NMEA2000 devices, using very expensive cable from Raymarine (such as Raymarine A06045). Adaptors are also available but also expensive.
It's also possible to connect a Stng system to a NMEA2000 system using adaptor backbone cables but if its predominantly a Raymarine system probably easier to keep with their backbone.
Having said all that I'm not sure what connections your Element S series has.
 
By the way I also recently installed a Seatalk to Seatalk NG convertor to connect up my ST60 instruments, S100 autopilot remote and LifeTag system to a new Stng system and it works as expected.
 
I think all current Raymarine kit, like the Element series, is now standard N2K rather than SeaTalkng so you may not need an adaptor. Shipmodul multiplexers are very capable and can convert N2K/nmea0183/seatalk/WiFi but are not cheap.
 
andythefiddler said:
I have just bought a sea talk converter to get all my older instruments into my new Raymarine ElementS Plotter.

I think I now understand it all, I do however have one input whiny is NMEA 200 as native. Is anyone on here an expert as to how I can get this in to the system.

I don't want to start ripping out and installing new until I have the answers.

Thanks

I shall begin a circuit schematic tomorrow (or later today which I can upload if that makes it easier to advise me.

I have been retired for 10 years as an IT Geek and previously in Architecture, so I have some 'in built' knowledge of systems but am no expert and this feels like it is stretching me at present.

All Help gratefully received.

Andy
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No need for a converter, use one of these, fitted to one of the white ports on the STNG-Seatalk converter: Raymarine STng to Devicenet Female Adaptor Cable 1 meter - A06075

Note there are female and male versions, white refer to the N2K end of the cable having holes is it's female or pics if it's make.
 
Buck Turgidson said:
You can splice STNG to N2K without an adapter if you are cheap like me :).
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You can also cut your cables and avoid using T connectors if you want to. The space savings alone make me wish I'd done this and used a couple of studs and ring crimps instead :D
 
As ever, Paul is the most correct. Some of the other posts were also right though, if perhaps a little less "correct" ? Splicing cable produces the same result for instance but is slightly ugly, not really compliant, and almost certainly more expensive.
 
Hoolie said:
I think all current Raymarine kit, like the Element series, is now standard N2K rather than SeaTalkng so you may not need an adaptor. Shipmodul multiplexers are very capable and can convert N2K/nmea0183/seatalk/WiFi but are not cheap.
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MFD's seem to all be N2K now, but pretty much everything else is still STNG.

Treat yourself to a new Axiom MFD and a Evo autopilot and they won't connect together unless you buy an adaptor cable !!
 
To be fair to Raymarine that is a good move in the long term and in customers best interests, it's just that in the short term they've made it a bit harder. I'm actually a big fan of their STNG connectors despite them being proprietary. They're much more convenient to use than N2k
 
lustyd said:
To be fair to Raymarine that is a good move in the long term and in customers best interests, it's just that in the short term they've made it a bit harder. I'm actually a big fan of their STNG connectors despite them being proprietary. They're much more convenient to use than N2k
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I rather fancy they changed the plotters so they are N2K compliant, i've not heard anything to suggest they will change everything else. The connectors are certainly easier to thread in many instances, i just wish they had made them all the same, rather than separate backbone and drop cables.

The Seatalk to STNG converter is a great bit of kit, all of your old ST50/60 kit straight onto the N2K network, including autopilots. (y)
 
Yes the separate backbone caught me out once. Even though I prefer them I would definitely rather have standards compliance.

I have one of the converters in my bits box, it was certainly great when I needed it but now replaced with the iTC5 so I could remove the ST60s. That will hopefully also be removed when I lift out this summer to replace the old transducers but baby steps :D
 
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