Nice Port Cote d'Azur - lift in and out experience (a review)

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To expand on the knowledge base of those who boat on the Cote d’Azur I have written up my recent experience using the facilities in Nice Port.

Nice port is part of the Riviera ports group (http://www.riviera-ports.com/en) who allow you to use your own contractors as well as work on your boat yourself. As many of you will be aware, some of the ports on the Cote d’Azur operate on a closed shop basis and you are not allowed to DIY or bring in your own contractors. I wanted away around this as I am more than capable of doing my own antifouling and polishing versus paying someone c€60 an hour plus VAT and Nice Port looked the part.

You book a lift and time in the yard via Riviera Ports (who speak excellent English), but also need to coordinate with Ghiringhelli Marine (http://www.ghiringhelli-marine.com/) who are based at Nice port as they provide the lifting strops, manpower and hull wash. Costs for my 12m boats where just shy of €700 for lift, chock, wash and relaunch. Split 50/50 with Nice Port and Ghiringheli Marine. Your Nice bill gives you 8 days ashore as a block, but I only used three and getting relaunched early wasn’t an issue.

The crane is fixed and can lift up to 20T, your boat is then lowered onto a transporter moved to its allocated place and then placed on chocks and in a cradle for lateral support. It’s not quick, but it works for them. Please note that the lunch period between 12-2 is sacred so ask for an early lift out of the water to ensure you aren’t left in the transporter over lunch……

Access to the yard is easy and secure at night. They open at 6am so you can have an early start if you wish. I didn’t see anyone obviously staying on their boat and it didn’t look like it is allowed. Top tip – get a toilet access card from Nice Ports on your first visit.

You pay on the morning of lift in and must pay both the Port and the Marine company. Ghiringheli will happily run a tab for you during your stay so you can get bits an bobs as you go and it will be all on your final bill.

The lifting in and out is smooth, but you will get muck from the crane handlers shoes on you decks so be warned. They do their best to minimise this, but it is a factor of the lifting process. The use spreader beams so you won’t suffer from compression.

The yard is clean and has plenty of water and power points. Most power points are 16 amp, but a few 32 thrown in.

Recycling points are in the yard and well-marked.

Personally I liked the experience and will be heading back. The only work I had done for me was DPH drive service including bellows by Lacoche yacht Maintenance from St Jean Cap Ferrat who I always use and really rate (http://www.yacht-maintenance.com/en/homepage/) c€1400 for two drives

Photos to follow!
 
S, that's very interesting, thanks for posting. I'm in the yard at PV next week as usual, and also as usual I'm bringing the engineer down from the UK. It'll be interesting to compare costs but I suspect that this year I am right on the cusp of economic viability for bringing someone down, mainly because I am bearing all the t&e overhead myself rather than sharing it with another boat.
 
Thanks Shane
I've just finished my week out of the water and am on plane about to leave Nice. I used Arie de Boom at port de la Rague because I had bad experience with my usual supplier Bleumer at Baie des Anges last year. Arie de Boom also allow you to use your own workforce. I liked them ( for this service) and hope to use them again. They have a width adjustable 100t travelhoist which is very kind to the boat when lifting it. A bit too far west for you I guess.
Jimmy, sorry to miss you. I won't be in Antibes next weekend. The one after probably.
 
Pictures as promised

Being lifted - Micron 77 after 2 years!



Chocked and washed



First coat of antifouling Micron 350



Rear Navy stripe polished



Outdrives serviced and one coat of antifouling - primacon

 
They came with the boat and are both sides - mast steps. I was surprised when we first saw them, but they can be handy and fold away neatly.
 
Sounds like excellent value S. I've just paid €4000 for lift out/relaunch + antifoul and €2500 for polishing the hull and that doesnt include extras like replacing anodes and resealing the rudder stocks which I had to do this year
 
Mike, it must of been nice to get such a small bill from the SofF given the work you are getting done on your new place!

Jimmy, I hope your work goes smoothly. If you want to chat about buddying up next year, I’m sure the opportunity will arise.

JFM, thanks for the tip on Micron 77. Wonderful stuff. I hope its replacement (Micron 350) is as good. I thought you were going to use Cannes? What happened?
 
Mike, it must of been nice to get such a small bill from the SofF given the work you are getting done on your new place!
Dont remind me. I'm about to finally sign a contract with a builder today. All that money gone that I could have wasted on a boat instead
 
+1 for AdB at la Rague .
Been using them since 2005 .They have a good onsite shop and can order stuff if earlier same day or next day .
For the VP outdrives boys they are officially agents and HQ of VP France is a 10 min drive away and do regular parts delivery.
My outdrive boat was well looked after there at any one time they could be up a dozen outdrives removed .
They do seatrails of any thing that needs a short run in and FOC lift to readjust something.
I had some work done ( they found something doing a bellows ) and asked me to return in 3 days .They put it in the slings FOC and did some adjustments.
One word while on outdrives at the bellows they totally removed the leg and took them into the engine shed / work shop and stripped them down , removed the internal gears etc - maybe new seals etc ?
A guy called Franc that’s all he does all day every day - outdrives.

As JFM said they totally don’t mind any DIY or out side white van men guys arriving .
They lend rare tools and if you ask nicely will allow you to use there workbench/ vice / heat etc etc .
You can use there scaffolding , ladders and step ladders to polish your boat .

They do estimates in advance fairly detailed if required and only use OEM parts / oils .
You can live aboard while it’s out discretely if you wish .

At the shop they operate an account so to can send helpers in to say “ bring back a 4 inch brush “ and it’s put on the final invoice .
They will launch without settling up but if that happens they ask you return a few days later when the invoice is prepared .
You pay nothing up front for a annual lift / relaunch .

For the shaft drive boys they work closely with France helices ( FH ) who are a 10 min drive away for all shaft paraphernalia.
Interestingly anodes from AdB are cheaper than the public counter @ FH .
FH is there wholesale supplier as they sent me direct once because I could not wait for the Del van .

Also I’ve raised this issue in previous posts and don’t think the penny ( if there is one ? ) has dropped .
It’s this the blocking off .
The AdB lift guys tap the hull listening for bulkheads and reposition the blocks and have sufficient number to best support the boat .
Some yards just plonk the boat down on a two blocks .Looking at Shane’s pic above I wonder if it’s “ best supported “
You see I,am thinking bending and bust window seals and other stuff .
I know a few guys who suspect bust mid cabin glazing attributing it to not “ best supported “
AdB guys are fussy with this , that’s all I,am saying and I like it .
 
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Porto,

You make some great points, but for me the distance is too great. The chances of my leave lining up with a weather window are small so being able to go somewhere local in March played a part of my decision cycle. Of course I could wait until later in the year and improve my chances, but we also try to get a free week in our apartment so we can get it ready for the summer. I have to roll a few 6s in March so I risk mitigate as much as I can.
 
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