Newtown Creek visiting the pub?

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What is the window around high tide for visiting the pub before I return to find my tender beached? It never seems to be high tide at lunchtime at weekends.
 
What is the window around high tide for visiting the pub before I return to find my tender beached? It never seems to be high tide at lunchtime at weekends.

I'd have thought one of the weekends where we're approaching top of springs on the following Tuesday is best, late lunch and a couple of pints.
 
You need springs and 2 hours before to 2 hours after HW Portsmouth to be sure of enough water to get up the creek to Shalfleet Quay and back. Always been mid week when I have done it, but you can look up tide tables to check.
 
Have I got the wrong end of the stick about what's being asked here? Shalfleet Quay only dries for an hour and a half or so around low water, so more a case of when can't you go/get back than when can you, and if there's enough water at the quay, there's enough water back to the moorings.
 
Have I got the wrong end of the stick about what's being asked here? Shalfleet Quay only dries for an hour and a half or so around low water, so more a case of when can't you go/get back than when can you, and if there's enough water at the quay, there's enough water back to the moorings.

I think you'll find Shalfleet Quay - not Newtown Quay - dries for a lot longer than that.
 
Have I got the wrong end of the stick about what's being asked here? Shalfleet Quay only dries for an hour and a half or so around low water, so more a case of when can't you go/get back than when can you, and if there's enough water at the quay, there's enough water back to the moorings.

And even then iirc - the creek has about a foot of water in it and I don't remember getting too muddy getting dinghy to the water but not something to do with guests in their finest "going on a private yacht doncha know " attire.
 
I think you'll find Shalfleet Quay - not Newtown Quay - dries for a lot longer than that.

I was indeed talking about taking the dinghy to Shalfleet Quay to visit the New Inn and not Newtown Quay. I'm aware that you have significant local knowledge and I'm only an occasional visitor but with the acknowledgement that my memory may be worse than I think, I don't remember us having a problem getting there or leaving +/- 2 hours LW springs and am reasonably sure we left a bit closer to lw than that last time, though where in springs vs neaps I don't recall and we might have been scraping the mud a bit to start.
 
I have visited the New Inn dozens of times, and barely plan for the tide at all. It is rare to be unable to get to Shalfleet Quay even though the last hundred yards can be very shallow, I would say there are no more than a couple of hours either side of a low spring tide that it is impossible. Newtown Quay is a different matter, that dries out for far longer. The final option is the jetty from the Hamstead (north) side of the creek, that is always OK but the walk is about 40 minutes. Very nice.
 
Have I got the wrong end of the stick about what's being asked here? Shalfleet Quay only dries for an hour and a half or so around low water, so more a case of when can't you go/get back than when can you, and if there's enough water at the quay, there's enough water back to the moorings.

Doing one of those "find things to chuck out of the boat / take to storage" evenings and I've run across the national trust guide to the Newtown Esturary. Here's what it says about Landing:
1. Shalfleet Quay: Landing not possible 1.5 hours either side of LW springs
2. Newtown Quay: Accessible three hours either side of high water
3. Hamstead Quay: Except at low water springs
4. Hamstead Duver: Access at all times (please do not trample the vegetation).

EDIT: Oo and another thing. I always wondered why the duver at bembridge was so-called. Looking at the above made me google the term. Isle of wight dialect for sand dunes apparently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duver

May not have done much tidying and the boat now looks like a junk heap but at least I learned something today...
 
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I've often wondered about the Duver (or the "Doover", as grandpa pronounced it). Thanks. :encouragement:

Walking at Shalfleet Creek after a New Inn lunch which must have been around high tide one day last month, I was in danger of assuming there's always plenty of water there...

...are there particular, rigid rules prohibiting boats which can approach the pub, from bypassing the quay and going right up the creek, then anchoring and drying out? I didn't see any up there, but I'll be very tempted.
 
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