Newtown Creek how much water please

[zambant]

Having studied the charts I can see no definitive depth for the bar across the entrance

Hopefully some kind soul will be able to tell me how much water there actually is

Many thanks

J

 

[chubby]

I draw 1.4 M and can come and go at LW with about 0.5 M underkeel clearance by the outer buoy, there is plenty in the narrow entrance because the tide scours the channel, say 3.0M, there is sufficient to anchor or moor in the main part of the channel inside as it bifurcates, watch out for an isolated danger mark to port and two starboard posts to starboard, how much do you draw?

 

[zambant]

I draw 1.4 M and can come and go at LW with about 0.5 M underkeel clearance by the outer buoy, there is plenty in the narrow entrance because the tide scours the channel, say 3.0M, there is sufficient to anchor or moor in the main part of the channel inside as it bifurcates, watch out for an isolated danger mark to port and two starboard posts to starboard, how much do you draw?

Thanks for the reply - I draw 1.6m and the Yarmouth tidal data shows 1m above datum when I'm looking to go in on Sunday afternoon !
J

 

[Angele]

I'm with Chubby. At the entrance there is plenty of water, even though you can almost reach across to touch the beach on each side.

If you don't stray from the transit, you should be fine approaching the entrance too. I draw 2.1m and I haven't had a problem (though I don't think I have ever tried it at LW springs).

My problem is always what happens when you get inside. Most people will take the first available buoy or anchoring spot, even if their shallow draft means they could comfortably stay afloat further in. That means that the only ones available are further in where I would not be afloat at low water.

 

[Ruffles]

Loads of water in Newtown Creek. It's just slightly thicker the deeper you go.

Often picked a buoy at the top of the Southerly trot where the depth would be less that a meter at LW. Draws 1.5m. Boat stays perfectly level. Could probably arrive at LW if you take a run at it!

Suspect the entrance is a bit sandier.

Have seen boats 'being scrubbed' just outside. So agree pay attention to the transit. Is the red buoy still showing the wrong light re chart?

 

[prv]

Is the red buoy still showing the wrong light re chart?

I haven't been there for a while so I don't know what buoy is actually there, but I remember making a correction on my (Imray) chart. If people choose not to update their charts, they shouldn't be surprised to find the real world diverging from them

Pete

 

[SimonP85]

bifurcates

Nice vocabulary!

We draw 1.2M and also always managed to get in at LW. As others have said keep the transit lined up and don't panic if it seems you can touch the shore at the entrance!

 

[Ruffles]

I haven't been there for a while so I don't know what buoy is actually there, but I remember making a correction on my (Imray) chart. If people choose not to update their charts, they shouldn't be surprised to find the real world diverging from them

I think it's wrong - or rather different - in Macmillans. And has been for a while.

I only mention it because last time I was heading for it was singlehanded at night. And the moon set just as I got there. So dark that you could hear the shore before you could see it.

I'm afraid I chickened out.

 

[Angele]

I haven't been there for a while so I don't know what buoy is actually there, but I remember making a correction on my (Imray) chart. If people choose not to update their charts, they shouldn't be surprised to find the real world diverging from them

Pete

If we are talking about the buoy furthest from the entrance (and not the post that is the seaward of the two transit markers, nor its SHM neighbour, both of which are unlit anyways) I have anchored overnight close to it (but out of the fairway ) three of four times over the last couple of years. It stopped being a red PHM many years ago and is now a west cardinal. Q(9) 15s.

 

[Seajet]

I'm afraid Newtown Creek just doesn't grab me, no particular scenery or wildlife, and a muddy scramble if going ashore.

I've not had any problems but I have heard the holding is poor in strong winds, as the mud is churned up by so many anchors.

 

[dylanwinter]

I am there right now

brilliant place

five other boats

bit of a revelation to some-one who until I got here thought the solent was all Hamble Scramble, pink trousers and dry stacks

 

[syfuga]

Anyone who fails to be 'grabbed' by Newtown Creek must surely have no soul? It must be one of the best spots in the Solent? The birds, the changing scenery, and outside weekends relatively peaceful surroundings.

On entering, it is important not to hold the leading lines too far, but to gradually diverge and make to leave the port bank close to port. Take care of the beacons port hand beacons once inside, then choose either the eastern arm or the west. Moorings are laid (National Trust £15). It is possible to anchor between, but there are shallow spots. Our personal favourite is to head east, and just around the corner where Clamerkin Lake turns south east. It's not so convenient if you want to go ashore to the pub, though.

We draw 2 metres, and although I have been forced on occasions to rest awhile in the entrance at LWS, we do not normally find bottom inside.

The photos show the changing scenes!

 

[Tidewaiter2]

I am there right now

brilliant place

five other boats

bit of a revelation to some-one who until I got here thought the solent was all Hamble Scramble, pink trousers and dry stacks

Key haven next stop then, behind the Castle is ok, but up under the W shingle bank at LW is the place for wildlife( and Keyhaven Scow racers!)

 

[Seajet]

Anyone who fails to be 'grabbed' by Newtown Creek must surely have no soul? It must be one of the best spots in the Solent? The birds, the changing scenery, and outside weekends relatively peaceful surroundings.

On entering, it is important not to hold the leading lines too far, but to gradually diverge and make to leave the port bank close to port. Take care of the beacons port hand beacons once inside, then choose either the eastern arm or the west. Moorings are laid (National Trust £15). It is possible to anchor between, but there are shallow spots. Our personal favourite is to head east, and just around the corner where Clamerkin Lake turns south east. It's not so convenient if you want to go ashore to the pub, though.

We draw 2 metres, and although I have been forced on occasions to rest awhile in the entrance at LWS, we do not normally find bottom inside.

The photos show the changing scenes!
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syfuga,

I have plenty of soul !

I just don't think much of Newtown Creek, there's a lot more of historical interest in Cowes; I would have added Yarmouth as a spiffing spot, but they seem to be working for the Lymington appreciation society with their rules & charges !

 

[zambant]

Thanks to one and all for help - I'll give it a go on Sunday then
J

 

[boatmike]

Go for it. Lovely peaceful place at it's best midweek. At this time of year it should be OK Sundays but if you can't pick up a bouy (or don't want to) bear in mind that the holding is very poor due to the soft silt. Klamerkin lake (not sure I spelt that right) on the left hand side as you enter is favourite for anchoring in light winds but even then reverse up on your anchor to set it and make sure. Enjoy your weekend!

 

[VicS]

I am there right now

brilliant place

five other boats

bit of a revelation to some-one who until I got here thought the solent was all Hamble Scramble, pink trousers and dry stacks

Mid week or out of the main season it is as you say a smashing place.

BUT

On fine weekends in the height of the season it gets absolutely solid !

 

[l'escargot]

I am there right now

brilliant place

five other boats

bit of a revelation to some-one who until I got here thought the solent was all Hamble Scramble, pink trousers and dry stacks

Wait till the weekend when it fills up with big mobos and RIBs carrying BBQs...

 

[prv]

On fine weekends in the height of the season it gets absolutely solid !

I mostly sail in the Solent at weekends (if I take a week off work I want to go further afield). For this reason, I haven't been to Newtown in years

Pete

 

[Colvic Watson]

I'm with Seajet, it was a bit of a let down. Not especially pretty, difficult to go ashore and busier on a summer weekday than the kebab shop at closing time. As an East Coaster I'm used to quiet places actually being quiet, where another one or two anchoring boats means there must be a rally on. Newtown isn't bad, it's just not great and no way lives up to the hype. I love the Solent for the hassle and bustle, large sandy beaches, great facilities, huge choice of anchorages etc. The Solent doesn't really 'do' quiet, pretty and unvisited. There's a place just up the coast from here called Butley Creek, one of the prettiest places I've visited round the coast from the Isle of Man to Whitby and you rarely share it with more than two others, Newtown isn't a patch on it and you share it with 35 other anchored boats

Still back to the Solent this summer, you can't beat it for family sailing, our new favourite holiday destination.