New Targa 58

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Just received the marketing email from fairline, showing off the new targa 58, is it just me or does it have a major hint of sealine sc35 sides, roof and massively high sun lounging pad on the front? with personal preferance, i would be biased to the fairline design, but this looks far to much like a sealine (not that i think sealines are ugly) and usually the design of a fairline is much sleeker and better looking? Think that manufacturerers are better keeping to individual design styles.... only my personal opinion though!
 
I think you cannot really compare it to a Sealine, IMO it is more an evolution of Fairline's latest designs
the hull lines are very similar to the 55 Squadron and 65 launched earlier on this year, which where also a further evolution of what Fairline presented with the 48 Phantom
I think this will be a winning boat for Fairline and I accept them to sell a lot especially if the UK£ stays weak
Fairline are tweeking there range very well in the last year to compete in this very tight market, they are doing it so well that actually it reminded me of the old company it was before being sold in the mid ninties
 
As it's only a model, it's hard to comment on anything but the styling, which is fairly safe and conventional, so nothing really to not like, but little to really excite you either. For me, Princess do conventionally styled hardtops a bit better, so maybe Fairline needed to be a bit bolder? The hard top looks less awkward than other large Targa's though, so that's an improvement, and Fairline are ahead of Princess on interior styling IMO, though on some of their boats that comes at the expense of a distinct lack of storage.
 
yes the 52 Targa GT, 47 Targa GT and also 62/ 64 Targa GT looked old compared to the V series, they still sold a lot of these and honestly I dont know how they managed
the best looking GT is the latest 44 and that did not sell as expected though
but apart the exterior looks which is very nice and a good step forward for FL the interior will score big points for this boat and compared to the new Princess V56 which is a renamed V53 + BP this is miles ahead....
I think from an interior point of view this is a big departure
for the first time I am seeing a builder outside of Italy who innovates the interior part of of a yacht, not that there is anything new an old San Lorenzo or Canados of the eighties had a similar concept for the owners cabin, but its still fresh to see it on an open sport hard top and being used again
if this will be as it is to plan they surely have a winner, is Fairline taking back the avantgarde design in the Sport Yachts again, well one model is surely not enought and it is fair to say Princess V series have been on a storm there, they actually sold more V sport boats then flybridges in recent years
if you would have told them this ten years ago they surely would have shooted you down at Plymouth!
 
Fairline are, I think, going down the route of having just the Targa and the Squadron ranges. I believe this will be a good move for them to make it very undestandable what the Fairline brand stands for. Within that concept though, they need to have outstanding design so that the brand is clear and desirable rather than clearly undesirable.

I liked the model of the T58, although I could see why the OP mentioned that there were visual links to the slab sided SC35. I suppose you could also see a link to Wally designs. I think it's a fact that slab sidedness is the current vogue. I would expect the T58 to have lots of internal volume and if Fairline use it well it could be a boat that steals market share from mid 50 foot flybridges where buyers will be able to convince themselves that they can have both the space and the sports boat look.

Do you have any idea what engines and drives it is likely to have? 4 x IPS drives maybe?
 
benjenbav said:
Do you have any idea what engines and drives it is likely to have? 4 x IPS drives maybe?
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Twin Screws I believe! The person who reserved Hull number 1 is trying to sell it.

http://fairlinetarga58.com/index.shtml

Interior sounds different as well...more like a sailing boat (Beneteau Oceanis Range) which also had the master forward and the heads in the bows. "The elegant swept staircase leads - via an airy, light-filled atrium - to a unique cabin layout. By locating the master cabin forward, with its en suite in the bow area, the fullest use is made of available space, allowing the main cabin area to take full advantage of the huge beam, the widest in this class. Naturally, the two sumptuously appointed guest cabins have their own en suites - and the lazarette, with its elegant and unusually large transom glazing, can be specified as an additional 'light-filled' cabin."

Cheers

Paul
 
This picture looks like it could be a still from the old scifi film "Attack of the 50 Foot Woman"

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I just got around to reading the article in MBY myself and I think the cabin layout, whilst not being innovative, is excellent from a number of points of view. The 'normal' layout for a boat like this would be master cabin amidships, guest cabin with 2 single beds forward of that and a double bedded cabin in the bow. The problem with having the master cabin amidships is that a compromise usually has to be made somewhere on headroom to accomodate the helm and saloon above and, second, if you are in the master cabin, there's no avoiding the tramp of feet above you when anybody is in the saloon. Moving the master cabin further forward gets over both these problems. Again it's not new but having the master heads in the bow allows the master cabin to be further aft where the hull beam is less pinched and hopefully still insulated from the slap slap of water when at anchor. The position of the master cabin then allows 2 guest cabins with single beds in each which IMHO is always a better solution than having one guest cabin with a double
A brickbat for the combined pasarelle/swim ladder though which might have looked good on paper but won't work in practice because with many Med stern to moorings, the quay behind the boat is often several feet above the water. The pasarelle would have to be at such a steep angle to reach the level of the quay as to make it dangerous
 
I like the boat. I agree the sealine resemblance in the hull but the slab sided hull look is much more attributable to Wally et al than to Sealine who are followers in this respect. No harm there though, imitation is a sincere form of flattery!

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A brickbat for the combined pasarelle/swim ladder though which might have looked good on paper but won't work in practice because with many Med stern to moorings, the quay behind the boat is often several feet above the water. The pasarelle would have to be at such a steep angle to reach the level of the quay as to make it dangerous
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Mike I dont get that. In the med you park the boat with a metre twixt quay wall and boat if possible, to avoid prangs, so even if the quai is high the pass will only be at 45deg, which is fine with this Fairline gizmo. I think it's brilliant
 
Blimey you must be a mountain goat, jfm, but 45 deg is a very steep angle and most peeps couldn't even stand on a 45 deg slope let alone walk down such a slope carrying heavy bags or whatever. Can't agree with you, I don't think Fairline have thought this one thru properly
 
have seen this concept of the passarelle getting out from the bathing platform on other vessels like the Itama FiftyFive and Blue Game boats, and I think Deleted User is right in his argument that on certain quays, this want be all that easy especially if you have a bit of age and one is not a feather weight...
 
Ah, hang on a minute! The t58 passerelle is much cleverer than that - the slats in it are always horizontal, so while the thing might be at 45 deg overall the teak surface becomes a series of flat steps, so it's like walking up the steps in a house which are also at 45deg typically. No mountain goatery is required!

Ditto when it goes down into the water for swimming- the steps stay horizontal. There is a CGI pic on the Fairline website showing this (the shot taken between the Lerins islands off Cannes)

This is, as PY says, the same as how Besenzoni did the custom passerelle on the itama 55 and it's also the same concept as the Wallypower 118 passerelle. But the itama's is a much more lightweight and flimsy thing than the quite chunky solid passerelle on the targa 58. Also the itama passerelle hinged up using a hinge located at the transom, not from the aft edge of the bathing platform as on the t58. This is because the itama passerelle didn't retract into the bathing platform as the t58 one does. It was telescopic, but of course most of the length of the passerlle was consumed in traversing the bathing platform, not traversing the gap twixt boat and quay. On the t58, the whole length of the passerelle is deployed bridging the gap twixt boat and quay

Seriously, the targa 58 passerelle is a brilliant bit of kit

Someone mentioned that hull 1 of t58 is for sale. It is, but that doesn't reflect on the quality of the boat. It's just a customer who has committed to the boat and wants to sell his position for personal reasons, nothing to do with the boat itself
 
ok thats cool! can't wait to see it for real

as for the interior today I noticed that the Rizzardi 55 Incredible launched in 2008 has a similar set up to the fore owner cabin as the 58 Targa, and even the aft cabins are the same with scissor movement which transform to a double VIP if desired, three heads, but in standard version one of the heads is used as a day head too, not with en-suite door
but apart this the 55 Incredible has also a lower galley and saloon, the 55 Incredible measure 59.8 in overall, a feet more in length, but 3/4 of feet less in beam
shame on me for forgetting, I visited the yard in Rome when hull one was under construction...
www.inrizzardi.com
 
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