New lagoon in the Orwell

[Hadenough]

On the mooring the last couple if days watching the UKD Marlin depositing dredgings in Colton Bay between the moorings and the main channel. Surprising place to put them (to me anyway), the charted depth don't appear too great there anyway. The way it's going the moorings there will be in a new lagoon off the main river! Anyone know the logic?

 

[Athene V30]

No chart to hand - where is Colton Bay, other than on the Orwell! Am now on mooring at Pin Mill but dont know the names of the various bits yet!

 

[Charlotte Anne]

It is the bay below Pin Mill and before Collimer point (as i understand it). The UKD dredger spins around in that part of the river chucking stuff out - at least it was on Sunday when i looked out of my window - I am not sure how much they really aim where it lands and how much it is just dispersed in a part of the river where the ship channel is deep enough that it does not matter to them where it lands. I assume that the spoils stay in the river to prevent the river getting 'bigger' and so needing more water on each tide to flow in and out. As you can tell I am no expert.

 

[MoodySabre]

No chart to hand - where is Colton Bay, other than on the Orwell! Am now on mooring at Pin Mill but dont know the names of the various bits yet!

Slightly upriver from Collimore Point which is opposite SYH. (well that's where Colton Creek is on a chart).

 

[Charlotte Anne]

http://www.visitmyharbour.com/harbo...s/chart/13EA0534483F1/river-orwell-2012-chart

The best i can find on the web for free...

 

[Jan Harber]

Dredger still working there this morning. Could see it from inside Suffolk Yacht Hbr, through the mist and murk at around HW.

 

[dennyjc]

Dredger still working there this morning.

It's till there now.
We were on the river as they were dredging and dumping yesterday.
We saw them dredging in Ipswich docks then pass us on their way down stream.
The river went BLACK with the mud as they started dumping just West of SYH and continued emptying while steaming back up river

I reasoned that if it doesn't affect the big ships then it won't affect me.

See here for their track -> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwlef47n8yn17j2/UKD Marlin.jpg

 

[sailorman]

They dregde in Ipswich & dump above Collimer
Harwich Hbe is dredged & dump between No1 & Collimer
All coz the tree huggers want to keep the worms in the river

 

[greylag]

And why is that a problem?

 

[sailorman]

And why is that a problem?

No water opposite Trinity 8 @ LW

 

[greylag]

My apologies, I was unaware the river was exclusively for recreational boating.

 

[sailorman]

My apologies, I was unaware the river was exclusively for recreational boating.

years ago it was purely for sailing craft, commercial & pleasure

 

[greylag]

Years ago one could shoot brent geese. Your point is?

 

[DanTribe]

A bit of thread drift, sorry to interrupt a squabble.
If you look at this area on Google Earth, between Levington and Pin Mill the satellite images change and shows the difference between high and low water.About 500m on Levington side.
I rowed ashore near there once, no wonder it took so long!

 

[toyboy]

Years ago one could shoot brent geese. Your point is?

His point is quite obvious to sailors. He should be applauded for writing about it but there again he is a sailor and sees the point.

 

[wingdiver]

Can you shoot Canada Geese? They don't seem to sleep at night....just inane honking - all night long!!!

 

[greylag]

Bit of an assumption that I am not a sailor or do you have to belong to the gang to qualify.

 

[Koeketiene]

I just don't get the constant maoning about the dredging on the Orwell.
I, for one am delighted that at least one East Coast river is being dredged.
It may be that I am by character not suited to enjoy the delights of East Coast sailing (and with a 7' deep keeler I certainly don't have the boat for it) but I find having to constantly navigate shallow puddles a pain. At least, when I stay between the cans on the Orwell I know I will always have enough water under the keel.

What's the alternative? Not dredge the Orwell? An then, in a decade or so, you will only be able to get to Ipswich two hours either side of HW in nothing larger than a bath tub.

 

[sailorman]

I just don't get the constant maoning about the dredging on the Orwell.
I, for one am delighted that at least one East Coast river is being dredged.
It may be that I am by character not suited to enjoy the delights of East Coast sailing (and with a 7' deep keeler I certainly don't have the boat for it) but I find having to constantly navigate shallow puddles a pain. At least, when I stay between the cans on the Orwell I know I will always have enough water under the keel.

What's the alternative? Not dredge the Orwell? An then, in a decade or so, you will only be able to get to Ipswich two hours either side of HW in nothing larger than a bath tub.

Nothing against dredging as long as they take it out to sea not fill the river shallows with it

 

[Koeketiene]

Nothing against dredging as long as they take it out to sea not fill the river shallows with it

And why not?
Why is filling the river shallows such a bad thing?
Whether these bits are just shallow or after the dredging a bit more shallow - I am unlikely to sail there.