New Jeanneau Prestige 60

Cmon Rob, at least re-write the press release!! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Thats just a advert, not a article...
 
well , they have put the props the wrong way around? also they have copied the the traga roof from my boat but missed the front of the flybridge?

Height will be an issue as it is on my bost so no french canals on the 60?


Otherwise nice boat./.

Tom
 
I like that very much. If you add a 2nd helm seat inside, and install a U shaped flybridge dining table+ seats (a la Sq58) instead of the unsocial L shape, you'd have a great boat. 2x670 engines plus 2800litres of fuel = fantastic range, perhaps 450nm

It must have very long jackshafts, cos the engines are a long way forward for IPS

The bad part is 5.1m beam. There are lots of med berths for this length boat with 5.0m width. To park a 5.1 boat you have to buy a 6m berth, or (occasionally) a 5.5m. That's not very clever
 
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Just as surprisingly, the flybridge offers a distinct, roomy living space, where the standard of comfort blends with elegance.

A perfect answer to current requirements for luxury, comfort and new technology, the Prestige 60 will definitely be worthy of its entry into the world of luxury yachts.

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To me this is just brochure copy bullshite! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

How do you have 'roomy living space' on a fly-bridge? How can comfort 'blend with elegance'??? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

'Perfect answer to current requirements'... So my mate with a 25' fishing boat needs look no further cos here's his perfect answer. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

My point is that no one boat is a perfect answer and everyone's needs and/or budgets vary dramatically. (as proven daily on this fora) News releases should be matter of fact, objective and reasonably quantifiable.

Fair enough if the manufacturer or designer gives their rationale behind any design feature as this would give a feature benefit offering but this J58/J60 is lacking, to put it politely.

Sorry, rant over. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Similar length boats from Azimut and Ferretti are 5.0m+ beam. Agree with you on the fly design. One fixed forward facing seat is crap. Saloon seems small for a 60 footer compared to say, Sq58 or AZ58 which manage to fit in 2 separate seating areas as well as a galley up. IMHO high gloss cherry or whatever it is bit passe now. You're right about engine positions relative to IPS drives. Either plan is wrong or shaftdrive is an option
IMHO, Jeanneau brand will struggle to sell at this size/price level in same way as Sealine have difficulty selling their T50/60 models. So Jeanneau will have to price it super competitively which will be very difficult with the strength of the Euro
 
The new azi 58 is 4.95m, I imagine becuase of med berthing

Agree with you on the gloss cherry. I hope they will offer something else as well
 
It will be interesting to see if they position it in the same manner as they have done with their raggie models.... that is, very competitively priced, but not 'cheap'... positioned as a 'better quality mass manufacturer'.... not being overly familiar with the Mobo market, is there a space here for a manufacturer that can probably benefit significantly from economies of scale?
 
That's a great layout for a 60 footer. It needs some fine tuning like the 2nd helm seat, as others have said, but I really like the saloon arrangement. We rarely eat at the table inside, so the convertible dinette is a great compromise, it's there if you need it, but when you don't you can use the space to extend the saloon.

The fly looks good too, though u-shaped with table may be better. The cabin arrangement is excellent, with three heads, and two sinks in the master heads. I'm intrigued to know what headroom there is in the master cabin though, as there's not much of a step up in the saloon to accomodate the full beam cabin below.

I'm not mad keen on Jeanneau styling, but that's just personal preference.

By the way, I think it's a bit unfair to criticise MBY for the glowing text, when they start by saying "Here is their first press release about the boat".
 
Whoops, yes you're right, was looking at the 62. Ferretti 592 is a definite fat boy at 5.25m though. Around 5.0m seems to be average. Do the ports measure beam accurately in SoF to determine berth suitability? Never seen it in Spain
 
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It will be interesting to see if they position it in the same manner as they have done with their raggie models.... that is, very competitively priced, but not 'cheap'... positioned as a 'better quality mass manufacturer'.... not being overly familiar with the Mobo market, is there a space here for a manufacturer that can probably benefit significantly from economies of scale?

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Mmm, there are already established manufacturers that occupy that position, Sealine for example and, arguably, Princess. Irrespective of how good the Prestige 60 is, depreciation is likely to be a big factor in any buyer's considerations and I doubt whether the Jeanneau will hold it's value as well as the others. In actual fact, I cannot see how the Prestige 60 could be priced cheaply in the Uk market at least thanks to the strength of the Euro
 
They dont measure at all, but do ask for ship's papers so you'd want an SSR saying 4.9m or whatever, ahem. But if your neighbours complain to capitainerie that you're squashing them or scuffing them when parking then you're out. That's what the Antibes port office tells me, anyhow. There are several boats in Antibes that are 0.2m or so over the limit and get away with it, touch wood, and I've never seen anyone chucked off
 
But isn't the big market the Med, in which case Euro rates are irrelevant unless they are competing with UK based manufacturers.... who no doubt have to source a lot of their hardware via Europe anyway?

Couple of areas I suspect that Jeanneau will do well with are their marketing, and playing on their very extended support/dealer networks.... will be interesting....
 
I don't know the split between labour and materials on a typical 60 footer but for sure, Brit builders will have some cost advantage over Euro builders. In any case, the reality is that the £ has weakened by 25% over the last 18 months and, unless Brit manufacturers have massively increased their list prices or Euro manufacturers have massively decreased theirs, which I'm fairly sure hasn't happened in either case, Brit boats will be now be 25% cheaper in Europe and Euro boats 25% more expensive in Britain. Some Brit builders eg Sunseeker, Fairline, Princess do sell many boats in Europe so, for sure, 'cheap' UK boats will be a strong competitor for Jeanneau and Jeanneau may have a strong support network for saily boats but probably not for large mobos. Anyway, the market for mid sized flybridge boats has been badly hit overall by the recession so Jeanneau are trying to enter a highly competitive market at the wrong time. But then who am I to criticize, they are a big company and probably have a plan
 
it is a challenge
and this comes now with the rebranding of Prestige out of Jeanneau
Beneteaus Monte Carlo should follow this

Azimut did a similar move on in 2008 with Altantis after the purchase from Gobbi in 2001
Azimut strategy on Atlantis has worked well, and to make matters more interesting the CEO from Gobbi Atlantis is now with Beneteau Group
this Prestige 60 was first presented as a 58 and in fact I did a post of this in my Blog a few months ago....
 
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