new fairline 74, new policy

[tcm]

i Note that the new sq74 has been launched. And, it says, as a new policy for all boats over 60 feet, their test team will take boat number 1 and test it for 200 hours in all sorts of conditions.

Now, the question arises - what the ef did they do for all the other boats? Do a nice drawing, screw the things together, check the fuinds had arrived safely in their bank and then hoik the thing on a transporter with fingers crossed? I hope not, but hard not to reach that conclusion.

They do seem to be making a big deal about gosh actually testing something themselves that they've made, which points to the fact that
a) they've not done this before, and
b) their grasp of complex systems manufacture is light if they imagine that it's worthy of special announcement, rather than a normal phase of manufacture.

Even very early car manufacturers did this, and for more than 200 hours. Sunseeker whack their xs200 thing around britain at top whammo. Or have I missed something?

 

[tripleace]

bang on the mark.

Boat manufacturers dont give a stuff about anything exept the deposit and cleared funds.

Why
because we all accept them doing what they like.



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[PGD]

so are wee all crash test dummies then :-0 that have paid for the privalige, humm product liability springs to mind me thinks

 

[wakeup]

If they are going to test it under all conditions then surely they will need to test it with about 20 volunteers (forum regulars) on a beer fueled tour of the med.



yada yada..

 

[tcm]

Re: why 200 hours?

It will not have escaped anyone's notice that its mid-september now, and Mr # 1 may not be too keen to take delivery? Also, they need a demonstrator/show boat? Soo...um am i being too cynically to say that 200 hours is almost exactly the requirement to go ipswich via london to so'ton, then back to ipswich, then dussseldorf, then round the scenic route to the med? Um.

 

[tripleace]

200 hours is about 2 seasons normal hours ???

This proves that the existing warranty on boats is not enough.

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

So the boys from Cov Poly are finally going to get out on the water, eh? Begs the question how all these boat builders get all those nice ISO 9000 qualifications if each and every product is'nt put through a pre-delivery test schedule but then they will probably argue that the dealers are supposed to do it, ha, ha, ha
Depressing if you've just shelled out millions of squids for your shiny new boat

 

[hlb]

Will say this about Princess. They seem to test every boat. They blast around Plymouth regularly. Even did a bit of rescueing in the middle of one test earlier this year.
Thet seem to build them then dunk them in the water by there shed. Blast around in all sorts of conditions.

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[kimhollamby]

Pre-delivery test schedule

I think there are a few things getting mixed up here. As I was at the launch here are the facts as presented:

The policy that was reported in the MBY web report refers particularly to the 200 hours of testing that Fairline propose for boat number one. This is an extension of their manufacturing change where the company now has a prototype hall for the production of new models.

Pre-delivery tests will be run on all boats. The ones on boats in the sub-60ft ranges will be carried out by dealers as is common practice for boats (and cars et al). The two-day handover trials for boats over 60ft will be supervised directly by Fairline at Ipswich, in the company of the selling agent, to ensure that owners/skippers/agents are familiar with the systems specified for that particular boat.

kim_hollamby@ipcmedia.com

 

[petem]

As we say in IT

Testing is for wimps and idiots.

It's a bit like in Italy where nobody wears seatbelts. If you do then it shows that you have no faith in your driving ability. That said, their idea of road safety is having decent hospitals.

 

[PGD]

one problem with ISO 9000 - it just means you're consistat nad can prove it with a paper trail - consistant crap or consistant good makes no differene to ISO 9000, now 14000 shows a bit more, then you have quality!

Peter

 

[RayB]

If it has v***os which blow up after 1000 hours, I'd expect a hefty discount for a "used" No1 with 200 hours on.............lets say about 60%

"Hopefully that won't be too expensive to fix?"

 

[ChrisP]

ISO 9000 and it's associated parts, has nothing to do with the quality of the end product. It only shows that at the time of inspection by a third party like lloyds. The company had procedures written and in place to ensure the continuity of the product. In fact it's there to ensure that the mistakes and defects are common to all the units produced. It has nothing to do with quality & reliability of the product, only repeatability.

ChrisP ;o(

What do you mean the sea gull in front's walking !!!

 

[tripleace]

BILL GATES sells Fairline

Obviously as they (fairline) are now doing the testing, the Microsoft testing program has been wound up.

Is it true????

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