Need help with my first oil change!

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Trying to do some basic maintainence myself...I've got twin Kad 32s in a T29. Someone bought me an oil extractor for my birthday.....Where do I put the pipe to extract the oil!..is it down the oil filler cap or is there another special opening?..Thanks Gary
 
Down the dipstick tube. Remove dipstick first. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Some tubes are smaller than others, but a 6mm tube seems to fit most.
Warm the engines up first to allow the oil to get thinner, then it flows back up the tube a fair bit quicker.
Fast, it aint. My 30hp Yanmar takes about 6-7 minutes to empty.
 
Should be a DIY Basic Maintenance Manual available from Volvo (or call Keyparts) which will tell you all these things including changing impeller, belt adjustment etc etc.

Look to see if there is a pipe coming up the side of the engine from the bottom of the sump (should have a rubber bung/cap on it) If there is connect the pump tube to that. If there isnt it goes down the oil dipstick hole.

If you've got the Pella type pump, they're brilliant.
 
Recently graduated myself.

Lessons learned were not to underestimate how long it takes and how messy it gets. Lotsa rags needed AND, very important, enough empty cans to trudge to the yard tank or wherever with the old stuff and then for decanting the new (pouring from 25 litre containers is a no-no!)

It's very difficult to get it all out, so persevere. Next time I might dry out on a slip to make the engine level.

Best of luck!
 
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You obviously haven't got a [word removed] pump

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I am continually amazed at how often a presumably intelligent Forumite comes across as a complete moron.
So I hope you'll give me the same credit . . . BUT . . .

That pic looks just like the gadget I borrowed from the yard. It worked, but slowly. Would having a 20-litre sump make any difference?

Yours with dirty fingernails (yep, forgot the barrier cream).
 
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Not sure who you are suggesting is moronic....you or me? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously, changing oil is a dream using one of these things. used it initially on a P32 with twin diesels and now on a single TMD31A.

20 litres sounsd quite a lot. Mine takes about 7 litres I think. Are you tring to extract via sump pipe or thru dipstick? Thru dipstic can be very slow cos such a small diameter tube but I find sump pipe quite quick, say around 15 minutes plus an empty half way thru. Didnt get my hands dirty at all. (well, except when I dropped the bloody oil filter /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Also use similar pump.

Yes, they are slow, but can be quicker if the engine is run first to warm up and thin the oil. Flows quicker. Use largest diameter pipe that will fit down the dipstick hole. Remove oil filler cap to prevent any vacuum building up.

My engines also use 20 litres oil each. (Volvo TAMD 63P). Need a few "fills" of the pump to empty.
 
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Interestingly unfriendly comment! However, I've use a small Pela ( the football shaped one for £30) for many years and found that giving the engines a good blast around the bay really helps. They cool off quite quickly so drain one then drain the other straightaway. The small Pela (although I think someone else makes them now) needs emptying half way through each engine decant.
The muckyist bit for me is taking off the filters. I undo them in a plastic bag but still manage to get oil everywhere.
 
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The muckyist bit for me is taking off the filters. I undo them in a plastic bag but still manage to get oil everywhere.

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Good bit of advice I use two swing bin bags.

One open in a bucket at the side of the filter

One open and held around and under the filter, the filter drops into bag one which will have a hole in by now and then quickly drop bag 1 into the bucket with bag 2.

The old rag you remembered to leave under the filter will catch the odd drip that escapes.
 
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I ve read this thread with absolute utter disbelief, how hard can it be to change the oil and filter on what is effectively a pair of truck engines,

If you have little or no mechanical experience my advice is to leave it to someone who has, after all it,s only money and are you sure those filters are fitted on correctly?
or at least get someone to show you how to do it for the first time,

This thread is one hell of a read it's put a very wide smile on our faces,

thanks.
David.
 
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Err... have you actualy changed the oil on a boat engine, I'm sure many a car/truck mechanic would have a laugh until he tried it for the first time.
 
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I've worked on and owned motor boats since 1968, and understand engine rooms are not the easiest places to work in, some times little or no head room, close to zero space between engines some times working on your head, trying not to do handstands all the time while up to your elbows in bilge water,

Yes, I can safely say that I've changed the odd oil filter and oil in boats before.

The point I was trying to make, was if your not 100% sure of your own skill to do the job, ask someone to show you how,

because as we all well know there are no service centres at sea, and a mistake in the engine room alongside could end up being a disaster at sea.
 
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Why force him to make the same mistakes that we made the first time we did it? (not safety related, more about how to prevent making too much mess in shiny white bilges). If someone had offered to help out physically, he probably wouldn't be asking here...

dv.
 
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Yes i'd probably agree on that one, if your not confident to change your own oil then probably shouldn't be going to sea in a motorboat, but that doesn't stop a lot of people, fortunately modern diesels are pretty reliable.
 
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Agree that oil needs to be piping hot in order to have all the muck in the sump suspended in the oil and it is lots easier to pump out oil.Always raid old nicker cupboard for small mountain of rag to soak up spilt oil and everytime dropping the poxy old hot slippery filter.It is virtually impossible to cross thread any new cartridge filter and just a swift extra half turn at top will secure for season.Do not forget to paint or scratch date of oil change on filter.Oil and filter can be as expensive or as cheap as you want,we always use motor factor stuff ie 25L fleet oil @ 25.00 a drum and Crossland oil filters at 8.00,air filter about the same.Not sure of Volvo prices and do not care my old green monsters are 25 years old,if you have shiney new engines you may prefer to use Volvo products.
 
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Actualy the Volvo filters are surprisingly reasonable, I couldn't find a cross reference for my AD31P filters for crossland or fleetgaurd etc.. so as the oil change needed doing I went to my local very expensive looking Volvo dealer at Cookham. The proper Volvo oil filters were £5 and the secondary fuel filters £6, I know my primary crossland fuel filters are only £2.50, but to be honest the difference aint worth worrying about. Don't think I'd bother asking for a Turbo or heat exchanger price though.
 
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Trying to do some basic maintainence myself...I've got twin Kad 32s in a T29. Someone bought me an oil extractor for my birthday.....Where do I put the pipe to extract the oil!..is it down the oil filler cap or is there another special opening?..Thanks Gary

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Gary

Great Thread! changed my oil last night and some of the pointers in the thread were invaluable for another 1st timer.

only spilt a few drops of oil, and used the dipstick hole as the Pela tube would go all the way down the drain tube.

many Thanks
 
Another Volvo bargain

" heat exchanger price'
Love and cherish that sexy little copper core in its scrumpious weeny green box.
Around 800 pounds to replace a matrix in my 40a. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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