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Apologies for a non-boaty topic...

Recently flew long-haul. Unknown to me I developed deep vein thrombosis. A few weeks later a resulting clot broke loose and caused bi-lateral pulmonary embolisms. A&E, 10 days as a guest of the NHS with tubes coming out of me. A close call apparently. All because I sat still in an aeroplane for too long. If you're flying longer haul (3 hours apparently is the start point) DO take anti-DVT precautions. Since it's happened to me, several friends and colleagues have also mentioned it's hit them, or people they know, so it's not one-in-a-million.

Please, during long-distance travel, especially long-haul flights, take precautions:

• be comfortable in your seat;
• bend and straighten your legs, feet and toes while seated every half-hour or so during the flight;
• press the balls of your feet down hard against the floor or foot-rest to help increase the blood flow in your legs and reduce clotting;
• do upper body and breathing exercises to further improve circulation;
• take occasional short walks, when in-flight advice suggests this is safe;
• take advantage of refuelling stopovers where it may be possible to get off the plane and walk about;
• drink plenty of water;
• wear elastic compression stockings;
• be sensible about alcohol, which in excess leads to dehydration and immobility;
• avoid taking sleeping pills, which also cause immobility.
 

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Please, during long-distance travel, especially long-haul flights, take precautions:

• be comfortable in your seat;
• bend and straighten your legs, feet and toes while seated every half-hour or so during the flight;
• press the balls of your feet down hard against the floor or foot-rest to help increase the blood flow in your legs and reduce clotting;
• do upper body and breathing exercises to further improve circulation;
• take occasional short walks, when in-flight advice suggests this is safe;
• take advantage of refuelling stopovers where it may be possible to get off the plane and walk about;
• drink plenty of water;
• wear elastic compression stockings;
• be sensible about alcohol, which in excess leads to dehydration and immobility;
• avoid taking sleeping pills, which also cause immobility.[/QUOTE]

Aspirin?
 

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Wow, a lucky escape indeed, glad to hear all is ok and you are on the mend though. I hate long haul flights and shorter ones as well actually and woulld always prefer to sail, if only I were allowed. Got a return long haul flight coming in January which I am not looking forward to, but the sunny holiday should be good, I shall definitely be taking heed of the precautions to take, thanks.
 
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My colleague (back to back, I work rotation) has just had a stroke. We fly in / out of Saudi to Scotland every month. he developed this about 2 weeks after he arrived. Fit guy, no reason to have a stroke.

Appart from unlucky and / or a some biological weakness the doctors are wondering if DVT was involved. Another colleague got stuck in Russia for weeks after developing a DVT. The doctors would not allow him to fly home until it was cleared up.

One aspect that worries me is that I am very sedate these days, being very much a desk driver. In addition to the precautions you mention try and maintain some sort of activity in your day to day life if desk bound i.e. that one hour walk a day the doctors are always harping on about. When I do get round to it, after a week of walking a light stretching, I am far more alert.

So if you are a bit of a slouch, low activity levels and are flying over 3 hours, maybe a weeks worth of brisk walking and light stretching would help.
 

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Blimey - and I thought this was rare ...

A few weeks ago leg blew up like a balloon and I was diagnosed with a superficial thrombosis (thrombophlebitis). But - unknown to the medics I was also growing a DVT. Last Sunday I ran out of air and had to call for a blue light. Probably about 3 or 4 hours from visiting St.Peter. Following a CT scan, like yourself, embolisms on both lungs. Been injecting Heparin ever since, although I expect to stop tomorrow if the Warfarin has started to kick-in.

But damn it - I feel cheated - never got to ride in a long-haul jet, never got to make a pass at the stewardesses .... story of my life.

Has been a life-changing experience - but not recommended for this purpose. Avoid if possible.
 

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Glad you are still with us Ken.

I intend to retire at 60 as, Ron, the poor chap who I took over from 10 years ago, retired at 65 and died from a heart attack within a couple of months.

I've done my sums and, luckily, I can afford it.

Richard
 

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Glad to hear you are OK Ken. I was aware of the risk of DVT having had both hips replaced and flying to buy our new boat in the USA just 12 weeks after the last surgery. I had been doing DIY Heparin injections which is standard practice after the operation and they also said don't fly for 12 weeks, so I did that actually at 12 weeks and one day, plus went back to wearing those horrible anti-DVT socks for the flight and taking aspirin for a few days before and after too. We also booked premium economy to get more leg room and also made a point of walking the boundaries of the cabins at every opportunity. I have grown to hate flying after spending years of doing it on business and DVT risk just makes that hatred stronger.

Why is it that a 24hr sail seems nothing, yet a 12 hour flight is hell!
 

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Support stockings are really good;also have had some very interesting conversations whilst gathered next to toilet by rear exitsplus amazing views out of the aft exit window.So worth going for a wander here or there.
Though never forget coming into LA where before doing the seat belt warning the pilot must have dropped a good thousand feet suddenly and I found myself lifting off the deck as I walked towards toilet.
Having said all this despite concerns about DVT when I flew back from NZ in spite of having a quite nasty open wound(compliments of several rotten jetty planks through which my leg went) I was unable to get either an upgrade;neither was I advised not to fly-open wounds can exacerbate the propensity to have a DVT.
When I arrived back in London the pain I experienced in my lower leg leads me to suspect I may well have had a clot! which luckily dissolved!
 

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Good call. My mother had a DVT on a flight to Australia to my brother's wedding. Had a heart attack on arrival. (survived and attended the wedding).

My brother had a mini-stroke before going to live in Oz, so takes all those precautions every time he does the trip, PLUS, on the 5 hour stopover they walk at speed around the airport.
 

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Glad it was only a shot across the bows!

I used to do quite a bit of long haul flying - often economy class sadly! But modern planes are big & I used to book an aisle seat & go for a walk around at least once an hour. I can't sleep on planes so I don't see why anyone else should :D

Seriously tho, on night flights, if you wander over to where the food is prepped, the stewards/esses are usually glad of a bit of company (if you are not pushy or irritating) & I used to get the odd treat of "leftovers" from 1st class :D

Knees bends & leg stretches may look silly, but they could save your life & better done when standing than when sitting down. There just isn't any room to move on planes these days. Most people don't seem to bother, so it doesn't get that crowded mid-flight.
 

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What a frightening experience, glad you've recovered, Ken.

Seems like I've found something positive out of having protrate problems. It's impossible to sit for very long on an aeroplane without the compulsory, hourly visit to the head.
 

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You just like being stuck on your bottom don't you!

Jeeze - I thought you would've had enough of sitting still for so long after your practice earlier this year ... :p
 
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