Naval or military chest

[sailorbaz]

All the lockers in my boat seem to be occupied by ropes, batteries, spare bits etc. etc. I would like somewhere to keep some clean dry clothes in case I fall in or get wet.
At the back of the engine case by the side of the quarter berth there is a decent unused space which I thought of filling with a two drawer chest. I quite like the idea of making it with brass bound corners and recessed handles.
Does anyone know where I could find construction details? I've already tried googling but haven't found anything.
Sailorbaz

 

[cliff]

Let me google that for you.... http://www.woodworkingcorner.com/treasurechest.php

 

[Sandy]

All the lockers in my boat seem to be occupied by ropes, batteries, spare bits etc. etc.

May I humbly suggest that a tidy out is called for.

 

[Colvic Watson]

Naval or military? You 'avin a larf? We may only have a couple of small gunboats and an aircraft carrier with no aircraft but we are still part of the military.

 

[wully1]

I've still got my naval chest although it's expended a wee bit, from 42 to 44....

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Let me google that for you.... http://www.woodworkingcorner.com/treasurechest.php

All very fine and dandy but who on earth has that sort of equipment to hand unless they are very lucky, it is also an American site and although I would dearly love to make some of the items shown it is nearly impossible to source suitable timber in this country.

 

[viago]

make one of your lockers watertight? a sealable waterproof bag?

if you want a captains chest then i think it should be on show. something like this perhaps?

easy enough to make out of mahogany faced ply. use rubbing strake edge cut bungs to hide the screw heads. bits from here http://www.originalmarquetry.co.uk/category_Brass_Cabinet_Fittings_5.htm


p.s. i don't recommend putting "naval box" into images.

 

[Poignard]

How about one of these?

http://www.trinitymarine.co.uk/mari...niture/1st-class-ships-cabin-bathroom-cabinet

 

[prv]

All very fine and dandy but who on earth has that sort of equipment to hand unless they are very lucky

Didn't seem that exotic to me. Alright most of us can't fit a table saw in our sheds (though some do) but a handheld circular saw would do almost as well. Likewise a jigsaw for the bandsaw, he was only cutting thin stuff. I'm sure you could buy the fancy angled dowel jig here, but personally I'd have just rebated the boards into the corner frames with a router instead.

it is nearly impossible to source suitable timber in this country

My local timber merchant seems to have most stuff I might want. The one exception was cherry-faced ply, but nobody seems to do that any more, I ended up having to get it custom-made by Robbins in Bristol. They can probably get you almost anything, for a price. Where are you looking, the numpty DIY sheds?

Pete

 

[cliff]

How about one of these?

http://www.trinitymarine.co.uk/mari...niture/1st-class-ships-cabin-bathroom-cabinet

Yea, could knock one of those out in an afternoon (but not in burr walnut though)

 

[john_morris_uk]

All very fine and dandy but who on earth has that sort of equipment to hand unless they are very lucky, it is also an American site and although I would dearly love to make some of the items shown it is nearly impossible to source suitable timber in this country.

I can't see anything on that site I couldn't source either next day or within a couple of days. I'm fortunate inasmuch as our cottage is only 30 minutes drive from Axminster so I could drive over and get everything the same day if I wanted. The timber is available from any decent timber merchant. Most people who are half serious about wood never buy it from a DIY store! Overpriced and poor quality are too of the politer things one might say about their stock.

 

[Paddingtonbear]

I realise that the DIY sheds stuff is serious **** but there is nowhere else where I live (near Brighton) although I have to say that I got some cherry veneered 3/8 ply made up from a firm in Lewes. The big problem for me is that gaining a reasonable standard of knowledge, I don't want to be Chippendale standard, well I do but I am too useless. I am a wooden boat owner and the interior is mahogany and I wish to repair and fettle it BUT cannot find wood anywhere, at least anywhere I can touch it first. It seems that you have to know too much before you know what you want, it is a bit like joining a secret society. I would dearly love to learn but it is far too late I fear.

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Yea, could knock one of those out in an afternoon (but not in burr walnut though)

Just the sort of 'helpful' remark I thought some clever dick would post.

 

[Poignard]

PB.

I suggest you deal with Robbins Timber Company, Bristol. They are very helpful and know about timber for boatbuilding. They aren't the cheapest but I think their excellent service and the quality of what they sell makes it worthwhile paying more. They also deliver nationwide.

http://www.robbins.co.uk/marine/

 

[prv]

I realise that the DIY sheds stuff is serious **** but there is nowhere else where I live (near Brighton)

Google finds half a dozen timber merchants near Brighton, though admittedly I don't know if they're any good.

Pete

 

[David2452]

. I quite like the idea of making it with brass bound corners and recessed handles.

Can't help with the construction but you can get the fittings, brass corners, straps, lock etc here http://www.originalmarquetry.co.uk/category_Brass_Cabinet_Fittings_5.htm

 

[Koeketiene]

All the lockers in my boat seem to be occupied by ropes, batteries, spare bits etc. etc. I would like somewhere to keep some clean dry clothes in case I fall in or get wet.
At the back of the engine case by the side of the quarter berth there is a decent unused space which I thought of filling with a two drawer chest. I quite like the idea of making it with brass bound corners and recessed handles.
Does anyone know where I could find construction details? I've already tried googling but haven't found anything.
Sailorbaz

Are you looking for a project to see you through the next autumn/winter or are you looking for something practical/quick and cheap?

In case of the former: I can't help you.
In case of the latter: I could suggest this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001O3M8SO/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought 4 for the boat - one in the aft lazaret and 3 are strapped down where a spare (never used) bunk used to be.

 

[sailorbaz]

Are you looking for a project to see you through the next autumn/winter or are you looking for something practical/quick and cheap?

In case of the former: I can't help you.
In case of the latter: I could suggest this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001O3M8SO/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought 4 for the boat - one in the aft lazaret and 3 are strapped down where a spare (never used) bunk used to be.

Thanks for that - looks like you're the only one that realised I am in Oz!
We are about to move into a house which was owned by a carpenter and he left me a workshop in one half of the garage so, yes it's a project for Autumn/Winter.
The space I have is 80 x 40 x 40 cm with no top access - the cockpit floor is above it, so my thinking is a two drawer chest made from mahogany faced marine ply - probably 1/2". I would like to make it so the laminations don't show and my original question was really - are the brass bindings part of the structure or just for decoration?
I already have some of the plastic boxes under the v- berth for my son and his wife to put their stuff in.
The remaining lockers contain:
- two batteries
- water tank/ flares/ tins of epoxy etc.
- engine spares/ electrical spares/ cooking pans
- rope locker + spare anchor
- there is a bit of space under the quarter berth but I need to get in there to turn on the cooling water for the engine.
Sailorbaz

 

[cliff]

All very fine and dandy but who on earth has that sort of equipment to hand unless they are very lucky, it is also an American site and although I would dearly love to make some of the items shown it is nearly impossible to source suitable timber in this country.

FFS, If you cannot knock together a SIMPLE box as I linked to then I suggest you get your wallet out and pay someone to make it for you rather than decry those of us who have the necessary (minimal) skills. The box I linked to uses "pocket hole" corner joints aka "Kreg" joints. The jigs for these range from individual ones made of plastic (cost pennies) to multi head fully adjustable jigs in steel and Aluminium (cost ££'s). There is no other "equipment needed to make the box linked to. One could even use dowel joints instead so a simple dowel jig or even forget the jig and mark the dowel locations by hand reinforcing the joints with brass corners and angle brackets. - Me? I would probably dovetail them - so much more professional looking and all for the sake of 10~15mins work.

I am still waiting for the original poster, sailorbaz, to come along to see what he thinks of the box. As for being an American site - so what? inches are inches both side of the pond and there is no shortage of suitable timber (lumber to the yanks) available from UK saw mills and timber stockists though I admit I did have a little problem sourcing some hickory a while back (thanks to Mr Google for resolving that one)

You say in a later post

The big problem for me is that gaining a reasonable standard of knowledge, I don't want to be Chippendale standard, well I do but I am too useless. I am a wooden boat owner and the interior is mahogany and I wish to repair and fettle it BUT cannot find wood anywhere, at least anywhere I can touch it first. It seems that you have to know too much before you know what you want, it is a bit like joining a secret society. I would dearly love to learn but it is far too late I fear.

Good luck with that if you cannot even make a simple wooden box.
I suggest you enroll at your local night school for a novices wood working course and learn a few basics before running off at the mouth to people who do know something about cabinet making, Carpentry and /or Joinery - you might even find some of us "in the know" would offer to help you out once you have undergone an attitude adjustment.

 

[cliff]

Thanks for that - looks like you're the only one that realised I am in Oz!
We are about to move into a house which was owned by a carpenter and he left me a workshop in one half of the garage so, yes it's a project for Autumn/Winter.
The space I have is 80 x 40 x 40 cm with no top access - the cockpit floor is above it, so my thinking is a two drawer chest made from mahogany faced marine ply - probably 1/2". I would like to make it so the laminations don't show and my original question was really - are the brass bindings part of the structure or just for decoration?
I already have some of the plastic boxes under the v- berth for my son and his wife to put their stuff in.
The remaining lockers contain:
- two batteries
- water tank/ flares/ tins of epoxy etc.
- engine spares/ electrical spares/ cooking pans
- rope locker + spare anchor
- there is a bit of space under the quarter berth but I need to get in there to turn on the cooling water for the engine.
Sailorbaz

Depends on the corner joints you use and the adhesive - in olden days the glues available were not so good so it was common to bind such joints with brass or iron.
I think I have a few plans for small chests of drawers, which is really what you are looking for - pm me with a working email address and I'll email them to you - you wil need to play with the sizes to maximise usage of the available space.
If possible use solid timber or if using sheet material edge it to cover the plys.