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Has any body installed a “Weatherman” ? How does it perform? How neat is the flush Mount?
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quaelgeist2
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Returned the Weatherman to shop as it did not perform well, HERE that is. Lying in Holland I am too close to the emitting station to have good transmission. Nasa recommends 400-500km from Pinneberg (Hamburg). In the UK it should be good! As long as you do not plan to sail the Baltic.
FOR THAT you can get the Nasa 147.3, same program, same design, just receives Pinneberg on a different range. Appears to work well. The mounting is neat, but beware, the unti is not sealed, so can only be mounted inside or in a proteced area (mine is at the chart table)
chris
BTW Prices recently dropped, should not be more than approx. 420euro or 290GBP
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FOR THAT you can get the Nasa 147.3, same program, same design, just receives Pinneberg on a different range. Appears to work well. The mounting is neat, but beware, the unti is not sealed, so can only be mounted inside or in a proteced area (mine is at the chart table)
chris
BTW Prices recently dropped, should not be more than approx. 420euro or 290GBP
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gunnarsilins
New member
Strong signal?
Is there two versions of the 'Weatherman' or what is Nasa 147,3?
I´m sailing in Baltic but will do a longer cruise to UK, France, southern Europe/Med. and thought that the Weatherman was something I should get.
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Is there two versions of the 'Weatherman' or what is Nasa 147,3?
I´m sailing in Baltic but will do a longer cruise to UK, France, southern Europe/Med. and thought that the Weatherman was something I should get.
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johnsomerhausen
New member
Re: Strong signal?
This is a dumb question.... What exactly is the NASA Weatherman ?
I read my PBO pretty carefully, but haven't seen that item of equipment mentioned.
john
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This is a dumb question.... What exactly is the NASA Weatherman ?
I read my PBO pretty carefully, but haven't seen that item of equipment mentioned.
john
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milltech
Active member
Re: Strong signal?
It looks from the outside like a Clipper Navtex but it decodes RTTY messages from the German Weather Service. It's output is constant and you can choose English language, in that sense it's better than NAVTEX because you don't have long to wait, it also gives you a 5 day forecast which I believe is not available in the UK (except by paying for it). It is not however "chatty", it just gives lists of wind speed and wave heights expected at times and dates. Usual sea areas apply.
Downside is it's only weather (so you don't get the navigational and safety warnings like Navtex), and it doesn't have a "Sea Area" to cover the Irish Sea or Irish Sea Waters. This apart the service area covers from the Canaries in the South, all the Med. and the Black Sea, All the Baltic, and North to the top of Norway.
See it here:
http://www.allgadgets.co.uk/ag/product.asp?dept_id=10&pf_id=AG3883
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It looks from the outside like a Clipper Navtex but it decodes RTTY messages from the German Weather Service. It's output is constant and you can choose English language, in that sense it's better than NAVTEX because you don't have long to wait, it also gives you a 5 day forecast which I believe is not available in the UK (except by paying for it). It is not however "chatty", it just gives lists of wind speed and wave heights expected at times and dates. Usual sea areas apply.
Downside is it's only weather (so you don't get the navigational and safety warnings like Navtex), and it doesn't have a "Sea Area" to cover the Irish Sea or Irish Sea Waters. This apart the service area covers from the Canaries in the South, all the Med. and the Black Sea, All the Baltic, and North to the top of Norway.
See it here:
http://www.allgadgets.co.uk/ag/product.asp?dept_id=10&pf_id=AG3883
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johnsomerhausen
New member
Re: Strong signal?
Thanks for the info, John. But since I live in the US, wouldn't be much help...
john
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Thanks for the info, John. But since I live in the US, wouldn't be much help...
john
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RJD
Member
Hi, can anyone tell me the frequency on which the transmission is made please? I would like to view on my Ham equipment before purchase... Thanks
TonyP
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vyv_cox
Well-known member
Surprising information
First time I heard of the problem of being too close to the transmitter. Last year I received perfect RTTY signals from Hamburg on my ICOM PC1000 in Brunsbuttel, about 50 miles from Hamburg, and throughout our cruise in the Baltic. As far as I know this is the same frequency used by the Weatherman.
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First time I heard of the problem of being too close to the transmitter. Last year I received perfect RTTY signals from Hamburg on my ICOM PC1000 in Brunsbuttel, about 50 miles from Hamburg, and throughout our cruise in the Baltic. As far as I know this is the same frequency used by the Weatherman.
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quaelgeist2
New member
Re: Surprising information
Can't explain it (though I received some tekki stuff)
The order of invention was actually the other way round. There have been devices for reception closer to Pinneberg (the 147.3 models) for some time. At certain weather conditions you can receive with them down at the Med, e.g. Adria, promised coverage is about 300-500nm.
Nasa (developed and) recommends the Weatherman for areas exceeding the original coverage, where the DWD weather reports and forecasts are still valuable (according to marketing managers that appears to be mainly the Med)
Contrary to what I keep hearing there are also some navigational warnings included in the messages.
AS mentioned before, I was allowed to return my Weatherman based on the locational argument, checking my docs I see that they claimed it might still be possible to receive messages, but it would always be prone to omissions and malfunctions.
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Can't explain it (though I received some tekki stuff)
The order of invention was actually the other way round. There have been devices for reception closer to Pinneberg (the 147.3 models) for some time. At certain weather conditions you can receive with them down at the Med, e.g. Adria, promised coverage is about 300-500nm.
Nasa (developed and) recommends the Weatherman for areas exceeding the original coverage, where the DWD weather reports and forecasts are still valuable (according to marketing managers that appears to be mainly the Med)
Contrary to what I keep hearing there are also some navigational warnings included in the messages.
AS mentioned before, I was allowed to return my Weatherman based on the locational argument, checking my docs I see that they claimed it might still be possible to receive messages, but it would always be prone to omissions and malfunctions.
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quaelgeist2
New member
nasa weatherman: 4583, 7646, 10100,8 en 11039 kHz.
nasa 147.3: 147.3 kHz (hence the name)
have fun!
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nasa 147.3: 147.3 kHz (hence the name)
have fun!
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Oldhand
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The transmitters are as follows:
147.3 kHz, DDH 47, 05.30-22.00 UTC, 20kW, 50 Baud, +/- 42.5Hz
11039kHz, DDH 9, 05.50-22.00 UTC, 1kW, 50 Baud, +/- 225kHz
14467.3kHz, DDH 8, 05.30-22.00 UTC, 1kW, 50Baud, +/- 225kHz
4583kHz, DDK 2, 00.00-24.00 UTC, 1kW 50 Baud, +/- 225kHz
7646kHz, DDH 7, 00.00-24.00 UTC, 1kW 50 Baud +/- 225kHz
10100.8kHz, DDK 9, 00.00-24.00 UTC, 10kW, 50 Baud, +/- 225kHz.
In the UK DDK 9 is the best station for daytime reception. Any SSB receiver can be used with a PC and software such as Bonito Radiocom as an alternative to a NASA Weatherman.
Hope this anwers your question.
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147.3 kHz, DDH 47, 05.30-22.00 UTC, 20kW, 50 Baud, +/- 42.5Hz
11039kHz, DDH 9, 05.50-22.00 UTC, 1kW, 50 Baud, +/- 225kHz
14467.3kHz, DDH 8, 05.30-22.00 UTC, 1kW, 50Baud, +/- 225kHz
4583kHz, DDK 2, 00.00-24.00 UTC, 1kW 50 Baud, +/- 225kHz
7646kHz, DDH 7, 00.00-24.00 UTC, 1kW 50 Baud +/- 225kHz
10100.8kHz, DDK 9, 00.00-24.00 UTC, 10kW, 50 Baud, +/- 225kHz.
In the UK DDK 9 is the best station for daytime reception. Any SSB receiver can be used with a PC and software such as Bonito Radiocom as an alternative to a NASA Weatherman.
Hope this anwers your question.
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Birdseye
Well-known member
installed one last year and took the boat down to northern spain. worked quite well, though it was not as sensitive and selective as my ssb radio.
there are a number of frequencies you can choose from, though some give english forcasts and some give german language ones. the forcasts are quite comprehensive for the med and the north sea, but less so for the atlantic coasts and the english channel is covered with just 2 if my memory serves me well.
i would buy the equipment again if i was going to the med but would not bother if i was coast hopping in northern europe where navtex is quite good.
the most useful westher system i found was the ham radio maritime mobile nets
pm me if you want any further info
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there are a number of frequencies you can choose from, though some give english forcasts and some give german language ones. the forcasts are quite comprehensive for the med and the north sea, but less so for the atlantic coasts and the english channel is covered with just 2 if my memory serves me well.
i would buy the equipment again if i was going to the med but would not bother if i was coast hopping in northern europe where navtex is quite good.
the most useful westher system i found was the ham radio maritime mobile nets
pm me if you want any further info
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vyv_cox
Well-known member
We found the forecasts for the Baltic and German N. Sea coasts to be very comprehensive and accurate. Much better than the Navtex broadcasts from all available sources. Even for the English Channel the outlook gives good indications of wind speed and weather for up to five days ahead.
I do think that the 3-day outlooks given by UK Navtex are an improvement over nothing at all, but I frequently find them to be so cryptic that they are almost impossible to understand. Personally I prefer the German approach but, as always, don't rely on it to the letter.
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I do think that the 3-day outlooks given by UK Navtex are an improvement over nothing at all, but I frequently find them to be so cryptic that they are almost impossible to understand. Personally I prefer the German approach but, as always, don't rely on it to the letter.
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RJD
Member
Thanks for the info re frequencies - had a look last night. For my needs I think I will stick with Navtex.
TonyP
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Gunfleet
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Thanks for these frequencies. Out of interest at night I can pick up the 147.3 very clearly in Essex on my Icom ham radio. But I suppose if it's pumping out 20 Kw I should!
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