Name the engine lol

[rich41]

Hi all

I'm new to owning my freeman 23ft an I believe this engine is a Ford anglia 105e?

Could anyone confirm this for me or tell me exactly what engine this is?

Bonus point if you can tell me what it's called in the second pic as I have water coming out of the whole in the second pic when trying to start the engine, is it the sea cock?

First pic is the engine an the others show where the water is coming out from.

Cheers all

 

[ridgy]

Looks like a core plug missing it's core plug. I had a recent similar experience.

Core plug - Wikipedia

Good news is that a new plug is 50p from a car shop. Bad news is why it came out in the first place, presumably frost/lack of winterization.
Just tap a new one in, of the right size.

 

[Tranona]

Impossible to tell what the engine is as you are only showing the exhaust elbow and gearbox. However Freemans did use marinised Ford 85 bore engines 105E, 113E and 116E. All physically similar but 1000cc, 1200cc and 1500cc. this is a photo of the basic engine fitted in an Anglia anglia-models.co.uk/history-engine01.htm Watermota was the main mariniser and spares and information are available here sheridanmarine.com/watermota

Difficult to tell from your photos what you are trying to show but it is not the seacock which is the valve that lets the water in through the hull to the engine via a hose. However if it is on the side of the cylinder block it could well be one of the core plugs as ridgy says. They pop out if there is water in the block that freezes. Easily replaced. Google Core plugs.

 

[rich41]

Thanks guys I appreciate that.

 

[snowbird30ds]

That core plug looks like it's rotted out, not unusual for what I believe is a direct raw water cooled engine.
Getting the remains of the old one out can be fun, small hole with self tapper on a slide hammer can work well.
Cheap part just needs hole cleaning and a thin smear of non setting sealant around and tapping back in.

 

[PCUK]

Once it is tapped home you will need to strike the centre of the disc to expand it and make a proper seal.

 

[harvey38]

Join the Freeman owners FB page, it is very active, helpful and a huge amount of knowledge available.

 

[Refueler]

Once it is tapped home you will need to strike the centre of the disc to expand it and make a proper seal.

Not necessary if you fit by using a wood dowel that fits the internal of the plug.

"Cheap part just needs hole cleaning and a thin smear of non setting sealant around and tapping back in." - yes to cleaning up the hole - but if you need sealant - then you've either got a damaged block 'hole' or wrong core plug ...
They should not be fitted with any sealant as they are designed to have a full interference tight forced fit.

 

[Tranona]

Once it is tapped home you will need to strike the centre of the disc to expand it and make a proper seal.

I think you are confusing the type of core plug used in Ford engines with a Welch plug - a convex metal disc which can also be used. They are inserted convex side out and tapped in the centre which distorts the disc and forms the seal. The more normal bowl shaped plugs are interference fit and only need pressing in.

 

[Boater Sam]

BMC use convex welch core plugs, Ford used flanged flat faced plugs. A smear of sealant does no harm and if the recess is corroded it may prove to be essential.

 

[Refueler]

BMC use convex welch core plugs, Ford used flanged flat faced plugs. A smear of sealant does no harm and if the recess is corroded it may prove to be essential.

Engineer told me - when I was replacing my first core plug in my Perkins - to never use any addition sealant ... but make sure plug goes in straight. He recc'd use of a suitable length of wood dowel .. with a small piece of double side tape to hold plug to end.

His explanation was that the metal used in the plug was slightly softer than the 'hole' it goes into and because its an extreme tight interference fit - any irregularity of the hole will bite and plug will seal ... using any addition could compromise that action ..

When it comes to things like this - I don't argue with the guy ...

He also gave me tips on removal ... bent nail ... usually the centre of plug is corroded and nail can punch through .. turn and use it to pull out the plug.

Next tip he gave - if you don't have any spare plugs - use of Plastic Metal ... you can buy those tubes of it .. get the High Heat version.
Leave old blown plug in - as it will usually still have enough centre to provide a base ... if you have a bit of plastic card - cut a disc that fits .. put that in and then break of section of the plastic metal and then knead it till the two colours are mixed .. Then press this into the blown plug .. the plastic disc stops you pushing the epoxy through into engine ... Believe me - it works !! I have one like that on my Perkins - been there a few years now - I plan to replace this season.

 

[Slowboat35]

Why on earth would you want to name your engine lol?

Come to think of it, why on earth would you want to name your engine at all?

 

[ProDave]

This is the Ford Kent engine, well described here Ford Kent engine - Wikipedia

 

[Tranona]

That brought back happy memories as I grew up in Romford and my father worked at Fords as did I from 1964 to 1968. Naturally I owned a series of Anglias with varying size and state of tune engines. My mother had almost a complete set of Kent engined cars starting with a Cortina 1200 in 1965 which gained a 1500 engine - the 1200 3 bearing was the weakest variant and typically wore out at about 50000 miles, but could be "reconditioned" for about £60!. Then a 1300 Escort followed by one of the first Fiestas in 1978 which she kept for nearly 20 years until one day she phoned me and said she put it through the car wash and less came out than went in!. Persuaded her to get a new 1.3 Endura engined Fiesta which was still going well when she died in 1982. My younger brother's very successful engine rebuilding business was founded on the Kent engine although he moved on to big diesels later as car engines improved to the point where few are rebuilt.

 

[colind3782]

That brought back happy memories as I grew up in Romford and my father worked at Fords as did I from 1964 to 1968.

I lived in South Street above a shop in the late 70s!

 

[wonkywinch]

I lived in South Street above a shop in the late 70s!

Next to the shopping arcade that sold Razzle magazine?

 

[rich41]

Is this the Ford anglia 105e engine? That's what I've been told but have no idea.

And would you say this is the cross flow or pre cross flow?

Cheers guys

 

[wonkywinch]

Is this the Ford anglia 105e engine? That's what I've been told but have no idea.

And would you say this is the cross flow or pre cross flow?

Are the intake and exhaust manifolds on the same side of the engine (cylinder head) or opposite? That will tell you.

 

[Tranona]

Is this the Ford anglia 105e engine? That's what I've been told but have no idea.

And would you say this is the cross flow or pre cross flow?

Cheers guys

The links given will help you identify the engine, although the marinisation bits may confuse a bit