Name change??

[Guest]

Further to my 'Sooooooooo Happy' post.....present name is dire (that's not the name! - the name is 'Our Turn'..yuk.)
Want to change it....does it really bring bad luck?? Anybody got any stories/opinions??
Drake renamed the Pelican the Golden Hind...he didn't do too badly did he?
Maxwell

 

[hlb]

Dont know. But if your doing it do it quick. Else you'll finish up with more bits of paper with one name on it and have to get it changed for the other. I've always left mine the same. Cos by the time I've dreamed up a suitable name. THe radio, marina, insurance, SSR. To name but a few. have all been done.

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[trev]

We've retained the same name for five boats - no problems. The folks at SSR and full registration have always been helpful over the phone and even faxed all the forms to us on one (hurried) occassion.

Trev

 

[halcyon]

Locally you have to walk three times anti-clockwise round the boat if you rename it, to avoid bad luck.
Not saying it's true or not, but we have frends who renamed ther boat without doing there laps, and had lots of trouble, next time out of the water they were spotted walking round it anti-clockwise!.

If you don't and do not have a problem, it's a old wifes tale, if you do, well.


Brian

 

[DepSol]

I yjoughy supersticion said you had to change something on the boat other than its name and launch it backwards??

Dom


I just want my boat back in the water ;-(

 

[c_j]

The reason that re-naming a boat was considered unlucky was that traditionally the registration authority insisted that the official number and tonnage was permanently marked on the vessel. This was usually done by burning (with a hot poker or similar) this information into the wooden main beam, as this was reckoned to be the strongest part of the ship and as such would probably last the longest.

When a change of name was requested, the old name was struck from the register and the new name was issued along with a new official number.

This meant that the old official number had to be removed. This was usually done by chipping out all the wood in the beam to obliterate it and then burning the new number in over it. This process was considered by some to weaken the main beam and as such render the vessel less sea worthy than before.

Sailing on a ship with a known weakness was supposed to be unlucky.

I changed mine from Ultimate Pleasure (!) to Stone Me

I cannot decide if it has been unlucky or not!

We still own her and love her but the cost!!


CJ
chris@stone.uk.com

www.stone.uk.com

 

[Guest]

Re: Name change no probs yet

The number and tonnage is carved on a wooden plaque above the door to my upper helm, so no problems
in weakening the boat (Broom 37 Crown) I changed the name as a could'nt live with "Zonnebloem" apparantly
means dutch sun flower, Also dreaded the thought of using phonetic alphabet over VHF imagine remembering
zebra oscar november etc etc.... Anyway named it after the wife "Finola". (she does'nt seem to appreciate it)
No problems so far.

cneighbour

 

[syd]

Ok, lets summarise the situation if we may.

Bloke comes along with a mould or jig. Bloke takes a lump of plastic or steel, or even wood and makes it into sexy floaty type structure. Bloke thinks, "I'll sell this sexy,floaty type structure made from a lump of plastic, steel or even wood, for a bigger lump of money. This is where we come in.
Call it what you like, just make sure it don't leak!
Cheers
Syd



Anyone seen my boat. It was here a minute ago.

 

[oldsaltoz]

G’day Max
When we changed the name, we were advised that writing the old name inside the boat would prevent bad luck. It seems to have worked so far.
The old name was written in letters about an inch high on the back of a forward bulkhead inside a storage area, you would have to have a very flexible neck to spot it.

Andavagoodweekend Old Salt Oz……

 

[KevB]

Think I\'d just risk new stickers!!!

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm

Everyone knows that renaming your boat will bring nothing but bad luck and make your boating experience something that you will want to forget. But what happens when, after months of searching, you find your dreamboat with a name that you just cannot live with. For example, my first love was a 28-foot Alden with the most beautiful lines I’d ever seen. She was named Perfidious. How could anything this graceful be named betrayer of trust? Well, I never bought her, but I often thought that if I had, I would have renamed her Magic, after my wife.
Renaming a boat is, of course, not something to be done lightly. Since the beginning of time, sailors have sworn that there are unlucky ships and the unluckiest ships of all are those who have defied the gods and changed their names. So, is there a way to change a name and not incur the wrath of those deities that rule the elements? Yes, Virginia, there is.




According to legend, each and every vessel is recorded by name in the Ledger of the Deep and is known personally to Poseidon, or Neptune, the god of the sea. It is logical therefore, if we wish to change the name of our boat, the first thing we must do is to purge its name from the Ledger of the Deep and from Poseidon’s memory.
This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration of every trace of the boat’s current identity. This is essential and must be done thoroughly. I once went through the ceremony after the owner had assured me that every reference to his boat’s old name had been purged from her. A couple of weeks later, he discovered he had missed a faded name on her floating key chain. I advised him to start over, perhaps with a little extra libation for the ruler of the sea. Unfortunately, he declined. Since then, his boat has been struck by lightning, had its engine ruined by the ingress of the sea, been damaged by collision and finally sunk! It pays to be thorough.

In purging your boat, it is acceptable to use White-Out or some similar obliterating fluid to expunge the boat’s name from log books, engine and maintenance records etc., but it is much easier to simply remove the offending document from the boat and start afresh. Don’t forget the life rings and especially the transom and forward name boards. Do not under any circumstances carry aboard any item bearing your boat’s new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been completed! Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed from her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the old name written on it in water-soluble ink. You will also need a bottle of reasonably good Champagne. Plain old sparkling wine won’t cut it.

Since this is an auspicious occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to witness and to party.

Begin by invoking the name of the ruler of the deep as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to expunge for all time from your records and recollection the name (here insert the old name of your vessel) which has ceased to be an entity in your kingdom. As proof thereof, we submit this ingot bearing her name to be corrupted through your powers and forever be purged from the sea. (At this point, the prepared metal tag is dropped from the bow of the boat into the sea.)

In grateful acknowledgment of your munificence and dispensation, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (Pour at least half of the bottle of Champagne into the sea from East to West. The remainder may be passed among your guests.)

It is usual for the renaming ceremony to be conducted immediately following the purging ceremony, although it may be done at any time after the purging ceremony. For this portion of the proceedings, you will need more Champagne, Much more because you have a few more gods to appease.

Begin the renaming by again calling Poseidon as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to take unto your records and recollection this worthy vessel hereafter and for all time known as (Here insert the new name you have chosen), guarding her with your mighty arm and trident and ensuring her of safe and rapid passage throughout her journeys within your realm.

In appreciation of your munificence, dispensation and in honor of your greatness, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (At this point, one bottle of Champagne, less one glass for the master and one glass for the mate are poured into the sea from West to East.)

The next step in the renaming ceremony is to appease the gods of the winds. This will assure you of fair winds and smooth seas. Because the four winds are brothers, it is permissible to invoke them all at the same time, however, during the ceremony; you must address each by name.

Begin in this manner:

Oh mighty rulers of the winds, through whose power our frail vessels traverse the wild and faceless deep, we implore you to grant this worthy vessel (Insert your boat’s new name) the benefits and pleasures of your bounty, ensuring us of your gentle ministration according to our needs.

(Facing north, pour a generous libation of Champagne into a Champagne flute and fling to the North as you intone Great Boreas, exalted ruler of the North Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your frigid breath.

(Facing west, pour the same amount of Champagne and fling to the West while intoning Great Zephyrus, exalted ruler of the West Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your wild breath.

(Facing east, repeat and fling to the East.) Great Eurus, exalted ruler of the East Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your mighty breath.

(Facing south, repeat, flinging to the South.) Great Notus, exalted ruler of the South Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your scalding breath.

Of course, any champagne remaining will be the beginnings of a suitable celebration in honor of the occasion.

Once the ceremony has been completed, you may bring aboard any and all items bearing the new name of your vessel. If you must schedule the painting of the new name on the transom before the ceremony, be sure the name is not revealed before the ceremony is finished. It may be covered with bunting or some other suitable material.





Politically incorrect and proud of it.

 

[Guest]

Re: Think I\'d just risk new stickers!!!

Bloody hell.............I think I'll just risk it........Commodore of Boat Club on the Severn will assume I've lost it..or I'm pissed..
Thanks for that volume!!
Maxwell